Informacije in vprašanja o sintezi 5cl-adb-a (MDMB-4en-PINACA)

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Hi all u beautiful souls of bbgate :)

I have some information along with questions pertaining to the synthesis of MDMB-4en-PINACA // Methyl 3,3-dimethyl-2-(1-(pent-4-en-1-yl)-1H-indazole-3-carboxamido)butanoate // C20H27N3O3 // Cas no. 2504100-70-1 (also colloquially & incorrectly known as 5cl-adb-a or simply “5CL”).


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I will leave the write-up for the synthesis I’m following at the end of this post. I also have adjusted scales for 50g, 100g, and 500g you can PM me if interested.

As an aside: we have successfully synthesized ADB-BUTINACA a large number of times following an almost identical procedure, just replacing the 5-bromo-1-pentene with 1-bromobutane and a different main ingredient I’m not quite sure the identity of.
There were absolutely no issues with crystallization of the ADBB just dumping the reaction contents into ice water. We are concerned from talk we hear of others difficulties that this may be more of an issue with the synthesis of MDMB-4en-PINACA.

General info may or may not be correct about:
  • The 1-alkyl chain is added to MDMB-INACA via nucleophilic substitution
  • MDMB-INACA (acts as the substrate, the nucleophile that will replace the bromine atom) reacts with 5-bromo-1-pentene (acts as the electrophile) in the presence of potassium carbonate (acts as the base in this reaction, providing hydroxide ions (OH⁻) necessary for the substitution)
  • This reaction is carried out in the polar aprotic solvent, N,N-Dimethylformamide (DMF)
  • 5-bromo-1-pentene: this compound serves as the electrophile — the carbon atom bonded to the bromine is electron-deficient and seeks electron-rich reagents to react with
  • Nucleophilic attack by OH⁻ on the carbocation intermediate leads to the substitution of the bromine in MDMB-INACA
  • The final product is formed by replacing the bromine with the pent-4-en-1-yl group from 5-bromo-1-pentene

Mechanism info:
  • the overall mechanism is a nucleophilic substitution process (SN1), I have outlined the steps I think it would follow below:
    1. Formation of the carbocation: 5-bromo-1-pentene undergoes heterolytic cleavage of the C-Br bonding, forming the carbocation intermediate
    2. Nucleophilic attack: MDMB-INACA (the nucleophile) attacks the electrophilic carbon of the carbocation — the bromine is replaced by the pent-4-en-1-yl group from 5-bromo-1-pentene

My questions:
Before my questions about varying reaction conditions and reagent amounts, I would much appreciate any corrections or pointers regarding my understanding above ^ from anyone who has any clue what they are talking about (unlike me, lol).
  1. I see varying reaction temperatures, ranging from 60-80°C, along with varying reaction times, ranging from 2-5 hours total stirring at these heats.
    • Does anybody know what the ideal conditions are for this reaction?
  2. Potassium carbonate is highly insoluble in DMF, at least at room temperature (lit says solubility is 7.5g of K2CO3 per 1000ml of DMF at 25c), but I’ve also noticed from performing many ADB-BUTINACA syntheses, that much of the k2co3 remains undissolved throughout the reaction even at 80-90°C
    • The adbb syntheses seem to work just fine without K2CO3 being completely dissolved.
    • I just thought yield could be improved if K2CO3 was fully dissolved in the solution but perhaps it's not necessary
    • Wouldn’t the dissolution of k2co3 only not matter if it was simply acting as a scavenger, which if I’m not mistaken is not the primary function of k2co3 in this reaction?
  3. I see varying ranges for the amounts of solvent (2-3L DMF), amounts of 5-bromo (465g-515g), and amounts of k2co3 (700g-856g)
    • using equimolar amounts of MDMB-INACA and 5-bromo-1-pentene should indicate the use of about 515g 5-bromo per kg MDMB-INACA (apprx. 3.5mol) — should I be using a molar excess of 5-bromo, an excess of MDMB-INACA, or is equimolar fine?
    • should I be leaning more towards 2 or 3 liters of DMF?
    • will a heavy excess of k2co3 affect the reaction? 700g is already a significant molar excess (apprx. 5.2mol), I know excess will enhance the reaction rate by providing more hydroxide ions, but what about the possibility of competing elimination reactions or altering the regioselectivity of the reaction?
  4. Will water mess up the reaction? Is using anhydrous k2co3 / DMF very important?
  5. I’ve seen some have issues with crystallization of the final product, only being able to obtain oily residues when using ice water for the final crystallization step straight from the reaction mixture (method 1, seen in my write-up below), as opposed to extracting twice with DCM, concentrating to dryness under vacuum, & recrystallizing from anhydrous ethanol (method 2) — has anyone here been able to obtain solid product from the first method? (procedures described in my write-up below)
  6. I’m aware that many Chinese labs have stopped producing the main ingredient MDMB-INACA, though the vendor I’m working with seems to offer it although they won’t give any IUPAC name or Cas no. for it. Is it likely that they are actually selling me a completely different precursor than MDMB-INACA that still works to produce a noid with this procedure?
  7. Finally, my last question pertains to a comment in the following thread: https://bbgate.com/threads/5cl-synthesis-kits-china.1247/
    • user /u/BackstagePanther says the following: "You are right that reacting it with 5-bromo-1-pentene yields 5cl, impossible to crystallize, and I have reported having reacted the same precursor with 1-bromo-5-fluoropentane and obtaining a stronger product, and I presume it is 1971007-89-2, the S- isomer (or possibly racemic mixture)”
    • my question is, would replacement of 5-bromo-1-pentene with 1-bromo-5-fluoropentane not yield 5F-MDMB-PICA? (this is what a Chinese vendor told me)

Synthesis Procedure Write-up


Ingredients:
Main ingredient is most likely MDMB-INACA or N-methyl-1H-indazole-3-carboxamide
Cautionary note: both DMF & 5-bromo-1-pentene will dissolve a lot of plastics - so stay away from plastic


①. Main ingredient, 1kg (3.456mol)


②. DMF, 2.5 liters


③. Potassium carbonate, 720g (5.2mol)


④. 5-Bromo-1-pentene, 515g or 410ml (3.455mol)


Steps:


Add ①②③ into the reaction flask, turn on stirring, and bring heat to 60-70°C


Slowly add ④ over the course of 1 hour, react for 2-3 more hours, then turn off stirring and cool to room temperature


How to get the finished product:
  1. Pour the entire reaction mixture into ice water while stirring, and add it slowly (at least double the amount of ice as water, ex. for 8kg ice : 2kg water). The obtained powder is the finished product.
  2. Fish out the large chunks of crystallized finished product and set aside, then pour the entire ice-water reaction mixture into filter bag (300 mesh works) to collect the rest of the product.
  3. Place the product you set aside into the mesh bag along with the product already in the bag from the filtration you just did, then pour more ice cold water over all the finished product to wash away any excess contaminants.
  4. You can place the ice-water reaction mixture into the fridge for a few hours or overnight, more product may crystallize out.
  5. Some people tie the mesh bag tightly and run through a washer/dryer with NO HEAT to tumble dry, others place product in a vacuum desiccator to dry under vacuum, and most just crush up the product into fine pieces and leave to air dry.

If you end up with an oily final product, we can assist you with making it crystals if needed, but the oil will work just as well for c-liquids / making sprays or dipping solution for paper. The second extraction method below is more advanced, but will leave you with the highest purity spice crystals.


Second Extraction Method (solvent-solvent extraction, vacuum distillation, re-crystallization):
  1. Once the reaction mixture is cooled to room temperature, add 2x the amount of water to the solution, and add 1L dichloromethane (DCM) while stirring for 10-20 minutes
  2. Turn off stirring, and let the mixture stand for 15 minutes, there will be an oil layer and a water layer. The next step is easiest using a large separatory funnel.
  3. Pour the water layer into another container, add 800mL DCM to this, and stir for 10-20 minutes (or shake the separatory funnel with frequent venting if using a sep funnel), then turn off stirring or stop shaking and let stand for 15 minutes, then remove the water layer leaving you with another organic oil layer
  4. Combine the 2 oil layers, add half the amount of water (1:2 - water : oil) and stir for 10 minutes, then turn off stirring and let stand for 30 minutes. Finally remove the water layer.
  5. Take the oil layer (contains product) and distill it under vacuum (reduced pressure so you do not overheat). By doing this you will concentrate the oil (product) in the boiling flask, and you will collect/recover the DCM from this oil as the first boiling fraction.
  6. Weigh the weight of the oil obtained in the distillation, then add 1.5x that weight of anhydrous ethanol while stirring (should be close to 1.5kg ethanol). If stirring is difficult, heat the mixture slightly.
  7. Put the above solution into the freezer for 2 days — stir this solution on the first day of freezing. The ethanol will not freeze as its freezing temperature is under -100°C, far below that of a conventional freezer.
  8. Take your solution out of the freezer, there will be a bunch of crystallized final product. Use a 300 mesh filter cloth to filter out the solid, and dry it naturally or under vacuum to get the finished crystal spice 😎
“The reaction solution was extracted twice with dichloromethane and water, concentrated to dryness, added 1.5kg of ethanol, put in the freezer for 1-2 days, and a crystalline powder was obtained, which is the finished product.”
Using this second method you will obtain product free from most impurities. The impurities left in the first extraction method are mostly just a small amount of 2-substituted impurities, and these will not affect the overall quality or toxicity of the product.


The only literature I was able to find anything substantial about synthesis information of this compound was the following paper: https://sci-hub.ru/https://doi.org/10.1002/dta.3037 ||
"Subjecting 1-(pent-4-en-1-yl)-1H-indazole-3-carboxylic acid (43, 230 mg,1.00 mmol, 1.00 equiv.) and methyl (S)-2-amino-3,3-dimethylbutanoate hydrochloride (200 mg, 1.10 mmol, 1.10 equiv.) to general procedure A gave, following purification by flash chromatography (hexane:EtOAc 95:5 to 85:15), 12 as a colorless low melting solid (246 mg, 57%). Rf 0.49 (hexane:EtOAc 80:20);
Where general procedure A is as follows: To a solution of the appropriate carboxylic acid (0.50 mmol, 1.00 equiv.) in DMF (2 ml) was added the appropriate amine or corresponding hydrochloride salt (0.55 mmol, 1.10 equiv.), HOBtH2O
(84.2 mg, 0.55 mmol, 1.10 equiv.), EDCHCl (144 mg, 0.75 mmol, 1.50 equiv.), and triethylamine (0.28 ml, 2.00 mmol, 4.00 equiv.). The
resulting suspension was stirred at ambient temperature for 24 h before H2O (18 ml) and EtOAc (20 ml) were added and the layers separated. The aqueous phase was extracted with EtOAc (3 × 30 ml), and the combined organics were washed with H2O (3 × 30 ml) and brine (30 ml), dried (MgSO4), filtered, and the solvent evaporated under reduced pressure. The crude products were purified by flash chromatography."

Sorry for such a lengthy post, I wanted to be comprehensive with any information I provided and with the questions I have. I hope anyone interested had no issues skimming through this! If you did, let me know and I will make some edits :)

I will make some later posts on how to make c-liquids, sprays, dipping solutions, and how to make strong, clean papers that will get into facilities. I have comprehensive info on how you can ship books from amazon, barnes & noble, local bookstores etc.

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Imam še eno vprašanje - ali za dokončanje te reakcije zadoščajo 2-3 ure mešanja in segrevanja ali naj izberem 4-5 ur, kot je omenjeno v nekaterih drugih zapisih?
 

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Naredil sem TLC, po 3 urah pretvorba skoraj 100 %, po 4 urah ni predstavljen noben predhodnik (idealno je narediti 3-4 ure, vendar so običajno v redu tudi 2-3 ure)
 
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Prekleto! Ponosen sem na vašo razlago, razumem vaše pritožbe glede vsega.
Kitajski proizvajalci laboratorijev resnično nadzorujejo trg, slepo prodajajo in oglašujejo na spletnih straneh in družabnih omrežjih. V resnici ne uporabljajo nobenih kemičnih spojin, tako da imajo stranke odlično kakovost. Uporabljajo zelo hitre metode, da bi hitro dobili denar, vendar navsezadnje tako poteka poslovanje v velikem obsegu. Se ne ukvarja več s kakovostjo in čistostjo končne kemije. To je škoda, vendar kaj lahko storim? Mnogi vlagatelji, ki ne razumejo kemije, se preprosto pustijo preslepiti sistemu.

Moralno sporočilo, ki vam ga bom posredoval, delite videoposnetek, kako ga izdelati, da bodo ljudje lahko razumeli vašo razlago prek besedila. tako da so vaši cilji in nameni popolni, brat.
Da bodo ljudje hitreje razumeli, da materiali, ki jih proizvajajo kitajski proizvajalci, ne proizvajajo popolne čistosti.
 

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Smo je zanesljiv prodajalec, pri katerem lahko kupim končni izdelek?
 

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Prav tako STROGO spodbujam vse proizvajalce, da si vzamejo čas za učenje te naprednejše 2. metode ekstrakcije. Analitično preverjena 5f & 5cl, izdelana tako, da izdelek samo razbijete v ledeni vodi s prvo metodo, skoraj NIKOLI nima višje čistosti od 70-80 %, in kdo ve, kakšne druge smeti puščate v končnem izdelku.
 

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raw material is okay ?
 

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ali ste uporabili ekstrakcijo z ledom ali dcm, poskusil sem ta zapis za mdmb-5br-inaca, mešal 4h pri 80C, vendar v ledeni vodi ni praška, le nekaj olja
 
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MDMB-5Br-INACA ni primeren predhodnik oziroma ga za ta postopek ne najdemo zelo pogosto. Lahko bi deloval, vendar bi bila konverzija slaba in reakcija ne bi bila speljana do konca, pri čemer bi ostale znatne nečistoče, ki ne omogočajo, da bi končni izdelek lepo kristaliziral v ledeni vodi. Boljša izbira za predhodnike pri tem postopku sta MDMB-INACA in metilni ester 1H-indazol-3-karboksilne kisline. Ker je MDMB-5Br-INACA iz kitajskih tovarn danes redkeje dostopen, ste verjetno uporabili drug prekurzor, ki je imel nekaj nečistoč.

Poleg tega je velika težava ljudi, ki preizkušajo ta postopek, ko naletijo na problem oljnatega končnega izdelka namesto praška pri uporabi ledene vode, ta, da naredijo eno od dveh stvari ali obe stvari.

1. Ne pustijo, da se končna reakcijska zmes ohladi na sobno temperaturo, preden jo prelijejo v ledeno vodo, in ali-
2. Reakcijsko zmes v ledeno vodo vlijejo prehitro in/ali brez močnega mešanja in/ali brez zadostne količine ledu (vlivanje/vodenje zmesi rxn v ledeno vodo mora biti NESKONČNO in počasno ter z močnim mešanjem).

Če ste vse to opravili pravilno, prekurzor, ki ste ga uporabili, verjetno ni bil prave identitete ali pa je bil nečist. Če je tako, mi sporočite, če potrebujete pomoč pri pridobivanju pravilne in čiste glavne sestavine za dobro sintezo 5cl-adb-a (5cl / MDMB-4en-PINACA). Če potrebujete, lahko pomagam vsakomur v državah, da dobi prekurzor iz ZDA v ZDA, sicer ga je treba poslati iz Kitajske-ZDA ali ZDA-ZDA, brez dobrih skladišč EU, s katerimi sem povezan.

Vsekakor mi sporočite tudi, če želite pomoč pri izvajanju druge napredne metode ekstrakcije in čiščenja z DCM/solventnim topilom z destilacijo in rekristalizacijo iz EtOH (etanola). Čeprav prva metoda ekstrakcije z ledeno hladno vodo deluje dobro za pridobivanje trdnega izdelka, če so začetni reagenti dovolj čisti, bo ta druga metoda, čeprav je naprednejša in zahteva veliko časa/napora, kemiku vedno dala veliko čistejši izdelek, ki bo prekašal vse, kar vaši konkurenti ponujajo na trgu ali na ulicah.

Z veseljem vam bom pomagal na kakršen koli način, kakršna koli vprašanja v zvezi s sintezo 5cl lahko naslovite na moje PM in brezplačno vam bom pomagal. :)
 

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Oh in še nekaj -- če to reakcijo preveč ali premalo segrejete, vam bo prav tako ostal končni izdelek, ki se bo zlepil raztopljen kot olje. Če vam ostane olje, obstajajo metode za rekristalizacijo praška iz olja in topila, vendar so za novega kemika nekoliko zapletene. S pravimi navodili jih je mogoče zlahka izvesti, če potrebujete navodila, me obvestite.
 
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Katera metoda za rekristalizacijo? Potrebujete DCM ali EtOH za topilo?
 

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Tukaj je moj zapis za postopek ekstrakcije in rekristalizacije. Sporočite mi, če imate vprašanja, tukaj sem, da vam odgovorim in vas usmerim, če se pojavijo težave pri razumevanju. Nikoli ne oklevajte z vprašanji iz strahu, da bi bili videti neumni ali nevedni. Z veseljem vam stvari poenostavim, vendar vas bo ta pregled usmeril v pravo smer.




Prvič, če so v pridobljenem olju znatne nečistoče, ne morete neposredno preiti na postopek rekristalizacije. Najprej boste morali opraviti ekstrakcijo s topilom z vodo in DCM. Če želite preizkusiti, ali lahko preidete neposredno na re-x, ne da bi morali opraviti celotno ekstrakcijo, lahko vzamete majhno količino olja in opravite postopek rekristalizacije, ki je opisan na dnu (opozorilo: pri poskusu te metode brez predhodne ekstrakcije boste dobili slabe xtale, če je preveč nepolarnih nečistoč, ki se v topilu raztopijo skupaj z dobrimi snovmi, zato poskusite z majhno količino).

Če je spodnja metoda ekstrakcije videti podobna prejšnji objavi, je to zato, ker je podobna. Jaz sem prvotni avtor tega posebnega zapisa (seveda pa ne izumitelj metode!).

Druga metoda ekstrakcije:

  1. Ko se reakcijska zmes ohladi na sobno temperaturo, raztopini dodajte dvakratno količino vode (tj. - 2L, če je zmes rxn 1L).
    1. Nato dodajte 1L diklorometana (DCM) in mešajte 10-20 minut
  2. Ustavite mešanje in pustite zmes stati 10-20 minut, nastala bo plast olja in plast vode. Naslednji korak je najlažje opraviti z velikim ločilnim lijem (spodnja plast je verjetno DCM - 1,33 g/ml).
  3. Vodno plast prelijte v drugo posodo, dodajte 800 ml DCM in mešajte 10-20 minut (ali stresajte/obračajte ločilni lijak s pogostim zračenjem, da vaša posoda ne eksplodira), nato izklopite mešanje ali prenehajte obračati in pustite stati 10-20 minut, nato odstranite vodno plast, da dobite drugo plast organskega olja
  4. Združite obe plasti olja (DCM), dodajte polovično količino nasičene vode NaCl (slanica) (1:2 - slanica : olje) in mešajte 10 minut, nato prekinite mešanje in pustite stati 15-30 minut. Na koncu odcedimo spodnjo plast olja in jo zberemo.
  5. Vzemite plast olja (vsebuje izdelek) in jo destilirajte v vakuumu (z znižanim tlakom, da se ne pregreje). S tem boste koncentrirali olje (izdelek, ki vsebuje DCM) v vrelišču in iz tega olja boste zbrali/prevzeli DCM kot prvo vrelo frakcijo.
  6. Stehtajte maso olja, pridobljenega pri destilaciji, nato med mešanjem dodajte 1,5-kratno maso brezvodnega (absolutnega) etanola (skoraj 1,5 kg etanola). Če je mešanje oteženo, zmes rahlo segrejte.
  7. Zgornjo raztopino dajte v zamrzovalnik za 2 dni - prvi dan zamrzovanja raztopino premešajte. Etanol ne bo zamrznil, saj je njegova temperatura zamrzovanja pod -100 °C, kar je veliko manj od temperature običajnega zamrzovalnika.
  8. Če raztopino vzamete iz zamrzovalnika, bo v njej kup kristaliziranega končnega izdelka. S filtrirno krpo z velikostjo mrežnega očesa 300 očes filtrirajte trdno snov in jo posušite naravno ali v vakuumu, da dobite končno kristalno začimbo. 😎



Splošni postopek rekristalizacije: Izbira topila


  1. Metoda z enim topilom:
    • Etanol je pogosto dobro izhodišče. Preizkusiti morate topnost vaše "5cl" zmesi (ki verjetno vsebuje nečistoče) v etanolu pri sobni temperaturi in pri temperaturi vrelišča. Morda ste na koncu dobili povsem drug kanabinoid (ki bi imel drugačno krivuljo topnosti), ker v resnici ne vemo natančno, katere predhodnike prodajajo kitajski laboratoriji...., razen če imate na voljo NMR in masni spekter ... svetlobna leta pred mojim proračunom :(
    • Če je spojina dobro topna v vročem etanolu, vendar le malo topna v hladnem etanolu, je etanol primeren.
    • Ne pozabite, da je MDMB-4en-PINACA alias 5cladba nepolarna (šibko polarna) in da se podobno raztaplja podobno - kar pomeni, da potrebujemo nepolarno topilo (NPS) za raztapljanje nepolarne molekule (5cl), medtem ko je manj podobno raztapljanju polarnih onesnaževalcev, ki jih pred ponovnim raztapljanjem filtriramo (z vročo vakuumsko filtracijo). Če spojina, ki ste jo naredili, ne ustreza tem merilom, se boste morali poigrati z drugimi topili, kot so heksan, toluen, DCM itd.
  2. Metoda mešanih topil:
    • Če samo etanol ne omogoča zadovoljive rekristalizacije, boste morda potrebovali drugo topilo, na primer vodo ali heksan, v katerem je spojina netopna ali manj topna. Ta pristop lahko izboljša kristalizacijo z zmanjšanjem topnosti pri ohlajanju.



Koraki za rekristalizacijo


  1. Raztopite spojino:
    • V erlenmajerico dodamo 5 cl olja.
    • V erlenmajerico dodamo minimalno količino vročega etanola, tako da ostane še majhna količina neraztopljenega topljenca (produkta) (želimo prenasičeno raztopino). Mešanico rahlo segrevamo na vroči plošči ali s pomočjo grelnega plašča, da se spojina popolnoma raztopi. Prepričajte se, da je etanol ravno pri vrelišču.
  2. Raztopino filtrirajte (če je potrebno):
    • Če obstajajo netopne nečistoče, opravite vročo filtracijo. Uporabite predhodno ogret lijak in filtrirni papir, da se med filtracijo izognete prezgodnji kristalizaciji.
  3. Raztopino ohladite:
    • Počakajte, da se vroča, nasičena raztopina počasi ohladi na sobno temperaturo. Ko se raztopina ohladi, morajo začeti nastajati kristali.
    • Ko je raztopina na sobni temperaturi, jo še naprej hladite v ledeni kopeli ali v hladilniku/zamrzovalniku (EtOH v običajnih zamrzovalnikih ne zamrzne), da se kristalizacija čim bolj poveča.
  4. Zberite kristale:
    • Mešanico filtrirajte skozi vakuumsko filtrirno napravo, da zberete kristale. Uporabite Büchnerjev lij in bučko.
    • Kristale sperite z majhno količino hladnega etanola in vode, da odstranite vse prilepljene nečistoče.
  5. Kristale posušite:
    • Počakajte, da se kristali popolnoma posušijo, bodisi s sušenjem na zraku bodisi z uporabo vakuumskega eksikatorja ali vakuumske komore s sredstvom za sušenje v njej. KONČNEGA IZDELKA NE segrevajte nad 40-45 °C - to bo povzročilo razgradnjo 5cl-adb-a.

Nasveti za uspešno rekristalizacijo


  • Čistost topil: Uporabite etanol visoke čistosti, da se izognete vnašanju nečistoč.
  • Nadzorovano hlajenje: Prehitro hlajenje lahko povzroči nastanek manjših in manj čistih kristalov. Ne vrzite takoj v hladilnik. Pustite, da se ohlaja čim počasneje!
  • Najmanjša uporaba topila: Uporabite najmanjšo količino vročega topila, tako da je koncentracija 5cl največja, kar zagotavlja visoko prenasičenost pri hlajenju in spodbuja boljše oblikovanje kristalov.

Če potrebujete čiste začetne reagente (predhodnike in glavne sestavine), mi sporočite, da vas lahko napotim k nekaterim uglednim prodajalcem, ki lahko varno pošljejo v vašo državo ali v vašo državo. :)
 

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I am only new to this side of things, can you point me in the direction to buy pre cursor kits please?
 

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Idealna temperatura za to reakcijo je med 70 in 80 stopinjami Celzija - če je višja, bo priprava nočna mora, če je nižja, reakcija ne bo potekala do konca, pri čemer bodo ostale nečistoče, ki bodo prav tako zavirale kristalizacijo trdne snovi.
 

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kaj je sestavina št. 1 in kako jo pridobite? glavna sestavina
 

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mdmb-inaca, lahko kupite ali sintezo
 
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Pravzaprav gre za zelo pogosto napačno prepričanje. Najbolj priljubljen prekurzor, ki se je prodajal, je bil MDMB-INACA, vendar ga je zdaj v kitajskih laboratorijih veliko težje najti. Večina je prešla na uporabo 1H-INDAZOLE-3-CARBOXYLIC ACID METHYL ESTER kot prekurzorja za 5cl. Z avtorjem tega prispevka prijateljujem, potrdila sta resničnost tega.
 

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MDMB-INACA je boljši reagent za to sintezo, vendar ga je, kot je navedla moja stranka arilcikloskopija, nekoliko težje dobiti, saj je zdaj v nekaterih državah na seznamu nadzorovanih kemikalij, medtem ko metil ester 1H-indazol-3-karboksilne kisline ni. Če pa lahko dobite dobro in čisto MDMB-INACA, je to na splošno boljša možnost za te reakcijske pogoje. Trenutno imamo MDMB-INACA na zalogi v našem skladišču v ZDA za prevoz iz ZDA v ZDA, vendar je zaloga majhna, vendar ga imamo navedenega v razdelku organskih predhodnikov v oddelku reagenti in oprema, ki je na voljo za nakup izključno prek BBGate escrow.

Sporočite nam, če potrebujete kakršne koli napotke o sintezi, ne glede na to, ali uporabljate naš predhodnik ali ne!
 

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Send me a pm janet :)
 

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we support high quality 5cladba raw material (1 main material+3 auxiliary )
i'd ask some question:
1. where are you in (we don't ship to usa /mexico
2. we talk here or tele/whatsap ?
3.we support 1 kilo /half kilo / or sample
4. waiting for your reply
 

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Ko je sinteza končana in koščke izlovim iz vedra, na katerem mestu je najbolje pustiti, da se posušijo ?
Ali ga lahko pustim v kleti na stolu iz stekla za sušenje ?
 

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Zagotovo ga lahko pustite na mizi. Pri sušenju le pazite, da ne boste uporabljali toplote nad 40 °C. Koščke prahu razbijte na čim bolj drobne koščke in posušil se bo veliko hitreje. Če želite učinkovitejše sušenje, lahko na mizo položite tudi papirnate brisače ali kakšen drug vpojen material in nanj nasujete prah, ki bo pomagal vpiti vodo. Ker je prah nekoliko voskast, se lahko nekaj malega prilepi na papirnate brisače, vendar bo to zanemarljivo. Poskusite pustiti prašek, da se posuši, ko je razdeljen na najmanjše možne delce, in na čim bolj suhem mestu, in vse bo v redu!

Za vpijanje vode in dodatno sušenje lahko uporabite tudi pakete silikagela. Pomagal bo tudi ventilator, ki piha nad prahom, ali razvlaževalnik zraka. Če izdelujete velike količine in potrebujete hitrejšo rešitev za sušenje, lahko na Amazonu ali eBayu naročite poceni vakuumski eksikator in prašek položite vanj, da se zelo hitro posuši.

Ena od teh 5-litrskih vakuumskih komor(https://www.ebay.com/itm/364327177324) in vakuumska črpalka skupaj z uporabo sušilnega sredstva v komori z vašim izdelkom bosta prav tako opravili svoj trik, vendar sta nekoliko dražji. Na ebayu, Amazonu ali kateri koli podobni tržnici poiščite vakuumski eksikator in našli boste nekaj lepih kosov te zelo uporabne opreme za 50-60 dolarjev ali morda celo cenejše. :)
 

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Ali menite, da sem prekuhal svoj predhodnik ?
Upošteval sem navodila in prekurzor kuhal, dokler ni dosegel temperature 73 C, nato sem ga pustil mešati 3-4 ure, ko sem se vrnil, je bila reakcija črno-zelena masa. Ali menite, da je bil prekuhan?
 
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