Amfetaminsyntes i en kruka från P2NP med NaBH4/CuCl2 (skala 1 kg)

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Hej allihopa. Jag försökte göra lite amfetamin med detta recept i liten skala, men misslyckades. Allt verkade ok, efter torkning såg min produkt ut som vitt pulver med en rödhet. Om det var amfetaminsulfat (som jag försökte göra) skulle avkastningen vara 84%. Problemet är att det inte är amfetamin.

Fysiologiska effekter
Jag försökte 20-30 mg, det fanns definitivt stimulering, men det orsakade också feber och tydligen en minskning av immuniteten: båda gångerna jag tog det flera dagar i rad blev jag sjuk med luftvägsinfektioner (första gången trodde jag att det var en tillfällighet). En annan person som tog det upplevde inte någon stimulering från upp till 90 mg, bara lite muntorrhet. Ingen av oss har någon tolerans mot stimulantia.

Kemisk testning
1 g av pulvret löses helt upp i 10 ml H2O.
När jag tillsatte överskott av NaOH-lösning till en uppmätt massa av pulvret i ett provrör fick jag en ungefär rätt volym freebase som luktade ammoniak. Jag separerade freebase-skiktet, torkade det med CaCl2 och försökte titrera det med syra. Som ett resultat mätte jag molmassan för freebasen till cirka 171 (och för amfetamin är den 135). Även om mina mätningar inte var särskilt exakta är skillnaden ändå för stor för att kunna förklaras enbart av mätfel.

Mina avvikelser från proceduren

1) När jag tillsatte P2NP insåg jag att det skulle ta timmar, så jag blev otålig och nedsänkte reaktionskolven i ett rumstempererat vattenbad. Efter det kunde jag lägga till P2NP nästan allt på en gång, och blandningens temperatur översteg inte 40-50 ° С.
2) Jag följde videon, så jag avdunstade inte IPA och tillsatte konk. svavelsyra till IPA / freebase-skiktet direkt.
3) Jag hade ingen aceton för tillfället, så jag lade inte till det innan jag surgjorde och jag tvättade den filtrerade "amfetaminsulfat" -pasta med IPA.
4) IPA är mindre flyktig än aceton, så jag var tvungen att sätta min fällning i en ugn i flera timmar för att torka den till konstant vikt. Temperaturen i ugnen översteg inte 80 ° С.

Så den stora frågan är, var gick det fel? Jag skulle inte bli förvånad över lågt utbyte eller ingen produkt alls, men att få ett bra utbyte av en amin som inte är amfetamin?!
 
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The method as described here lacks all product workup/cleanup and and as such provides a very dirty and unclean Amphetamine, in special as NasBH4 reductions are all not giving very clean product. Purple MDMA and such.
I know the physiological effects like fever like very well and it is just the missing cleaning trust me.
There are several ways to do the workup, from distillation, normal, vacuum or steam of the base or dissolving the sulfate in water and washing this several times with toluene or petrolether or my favorite: 50/50 mix of petrol ether and Ethylacetate. Then evaporate the water and wash the resulting salt with copious amounts of Acetone and petrol ether as last. Already the simple washings give you a consumable product which does not make you sick like the crap which contains borate salts or else.
 

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Even with the dirtiest amp he would have felt it just fine....guaranteed he got "almost amp" mainly riddled with hydroxylamine. This reaction goes south on people all the time. They have wayyyy too much nabh4 left when it's time to add the copper and with the heat the nanoparticles aggregate and become completely useless as a catalyst....fully useless... and leave semi reduced product. The only way I've been able to get around that is by reducing 1st in methanol/thf to propane then extracting and then using anyone of the zinc/formic acid combos.... for the nitro. Zero Michael addition.
 

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I tried it today, but something must have gone wrong..I followed the instructions exactly, but in the end there is more than there should be. What could have happened? Can anyone give me advice? Can it be cleaned? Thank you for every answer
 

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Please. How do I have a reaction more nabh4? I threw in for 6 hours but still not much nabh4 dissolved. In the end, when I added acid, the whole thing thickened after filtration, a white substance remained, but I suppose it's nabh4.. I followed the instructions I don't know what's wrong.
 

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My mescaline guide might help for 1 or 2 mol amounts. Possibly up to 500 g+ in a 20 L reaction vessel.

The same procedure for P2NP as with Mescaline nitrostyrene, however I do not know if it is more reactive. Have not worked with it.

Take a look here:

Or posted here (if starting from benzaldehyde):
 

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My friend and I always cooked amphetamine in the forest.
That is, for synthesis we really only needed 3 construction basins, Phenyl-nitropropene, several boxes of mercury thermometers, hydrochloric acid, gasoline and some special ribbons that show the reaction.

My role was always bring and serve, but we produced this product of 99.8% purity.
We had no competition in Moscow :/
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we didn't use fucking acetone because it's bad for your health
 
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What is the salt of amphetamine present on this photos?
 
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At one point in Russia, they suddenly cut off the liquid propen supply—left a bunch of wannabe cooks totally clueless. Product turned out nasty as hell, colors ranging from sketchy pinks to filthy yellows and straight-up horrifying oranges. But my homie was different—he was one of the few who knew the synthesis inside and out. Back in the day, he cooked pristine pervitin for the whole block, but dude got busted—hit him with a solid 20-year stretch. Luckily there’s a war poppin' off, so he'll probably get tossed onto the front lines and bounce back home early. Then we'll pick right back up where we left off.
 

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but you say "...3 construction basins, Phenyl-nitropropene, several boxes of mercury thermometers, hydrochloric acid, gasoline and some special ribbons..." and in your list of reagents only hydrochloric acid
 

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I can hit him up and get the full cook recipe—it's fuckin' one-of-a-kind.
 

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in this synthesis using only this reagents "...Phenyl-nitropropene, several boxes of mercury thermometers, hydrochloric acid, gasoline and some special ribbons..." amp sulfate cannot be obtained.

with hydrochloric acid obtain amp hydrochloride
with sulphuric acid obtain amp sulphate
 

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Your reagents list remind different synthesis way (Al/Hg approach). Why did you write this post under NaBH4 method? It's, also, interesting about HCl and sulphate salt.
 
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