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Mercury isn't bounded (connected) with amph free base. When you make extraction from amalgam solution, Mercury remain in water (which than be discarded).
Mercury isn't bounded (connected) with amph free base. When you make extraction from amalgam solution, Mercury remain in water (which than be discarded).
The following observation: 15 minutes after adding water to the aluminum foil and the mercury salt, I have a dark gray water solution with many small bubbles that form a foam. After I pour off the water, I hear the aluminum crackling and white smoke rising, a lot of white smoke.
Was I too early to drain the water, or too late?
In your place I would simply test with a small load if you have gallium available and report the result here.
Gallium forms an amalgam with aluminum just like mercury and produces hydrogen, but there are also some differences at the electron level that make mercury impossible to replace with gallium completly.
trust me , too late .... ive done 2 failed amalgams, like the one you are relating , if you use grinded balls , the surface has been scratched a lot and the reaction starts much more faster... as ive seen in less than 5 minutes its ok, even before..... if you wait 30 secs more than you should do, trust me dont add any valuable stuff (precursors etc) because you are willing to loss...
i dont like the grinded balls method, it goes very fast and the best amalgam reaction should spend 6 hours or so... if too quick, the yield will be much lower than if slow reaction...
i prefer the squares , but before to put in the flask you can squeeze all them manually ( in several times, all that fits in your hands each time) to form irregular semi-balls , then it will not stick and cause the loss of reaction foil settled in the bottom... that way are more easy to float, but not ultra expose the AL foil ..... learned by the worst way haha
i had 2 scary attempts , high temp raised too quick and tons of h2 gas all over the place, and...mercury?
In the examples elementary is used.what form of gallium is needed? salts or elemental?
Yes, I now also know, was a misunderstanding, as soon as the soup turns gray and bubbles form it is time, no longer wait. I use a shredder to get small snippets and press them together with my hands, so also a very large surface.
What do you think should take 6 hours? The reduction from the P2NP or the amalgamation?
In the examples elementary is used.
and personally i always rinse it, 2 times is enough ..the amalgam will continue without problems, and without almost all the mercury.
The reaction is the same, no matter which amine you reduce, I can only imagine that it is more difficult to reduce P2NP and therefore you need more extreme conditions which makes a slow reaction impossible. The reaction with P2NP has to be exothermic in any case, but also not too hot. I don't know if it makes sense to heat the reaction mass further to maintain the conditions that the reaction continues to run. Unfortunately, there is too little information about what now affects how and how an optimal path should be in all details.the 6 hours , thats an old info, i prefeer to let it overnight, but the 6 hours is a minimum of time, if AL foil is dissolved, if not i left close to 12 hours, otherwise low yields for sure. im not doing for amph, so i dont use P2NP , so i assume its for the full amalgam proccess .
I always wonder what you have with your mercury, the amount is very small and would disappear completely from the product after the release of the freebase. As far as I have heard, it has other reasons and that is that the mercury salt (partially dissolved in nitric acid) interferes with the subsequent reaction. Because even if you have rinsed out the mercury, you still have the dirt on your cheek and have to dispose of it.
The reaction is the same, no matter which amine you reduce, I can only imagine that it is more difficult to reduce P2NP and therefore you need more extreme conditions which makes a slow reaction impossible. The reaction with P2NP has to be exothermic in any case, but also not too hot. I don't know if it makes sense to heat the reaction mass further to maintain the conditions that the reaction continues to run. Unfortunately, there is too little information about what now affects how and how an optimal path should be in all details.
What also surprises me is that no one names the by-products that are formed, nowhere does it say how they can be prevented, or what is formed there and where in the first place. Either such a thing has never been researched or one is silent about it.
man, to be honest , you should have a bit more of patience, and maybe dont think the people are stupid just because are asking something thah you know easily....
anyway, you replied something very different in this thread about when start to add the ketone and methylamine after amalgam started, ive correctly asked about the best moment to add those, and as diogenes said for example, and you were agreed, the best moment is when the first 3 signs appears instead to wait too much...
thats what im asking for, i know how to do amphetamines.
i can understand those questions are boring for you, then i would recommend you to not reply to it.
i know deeply a lot of things in a lot of fields and if i really want to help, ill do kindly , because someone have the same doubt you had time ago.
dont take as an ofense, just saying.
as for the non english people trying to talk, be patient sir, there are much more people in the world talking spanish than english, and when a tourist or someone come to my country and at least try to talk spanish im always happy , kind and patient.
the other day i had to reformulate a question just because you think we all have to speak perfectly english..and every single person that readed it , for sure understood it.
What about gallium? It also destroys aluminium and could be used for amalganisation...but also for our usage? I had read about that and some people told yes, it could be a less, almost non toxic alternativ to mercury. Are there any experiences with that? Gallium may be more expensive but it could be used again and again.
Let me know what you think or heard about that.
I've heard lots about it. It seems to work just fine and I'll try it eventually. Read this thread:
This subject definitely deserves its own thread. I'll make one as soon as I've tried this, if you don't beat me to it.
Good evening!1- a spatula tip of Hg2Cl2 (calomel) in a test tube.
2- add 1ml HCl 37%
3- add 1ml H2O2 as concentrated as you can get. I used 30%, but I guess 10% would work
4- Put a cotton plug on top of the tube -heat on a small flame, don't boil it - a vigorous reaction (bubbling) takes place - be careful with the spray (mist) coming from it, it has very poisonous mercuric chloride in it, hence the cotton plug.
5- the crystal clear solution left (no calomel precipitate) is a mercuric chloride solution. Insert a piece of clean copper wire in the solution(thanks Polverone). It should come out silvery because it's coated with Hg.
6- Use "as is" diluted in water or neutralize first and get rid of the excess H2O2 with manganese dioxide. I use my marvelous catalyst to do it. Don't forget the cotton plug here.
would this procedure be possible to dissolve Hg2Cl2 to be used to amalgamate aluminum?
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