Drugs made from scratch

[BettaFoxtrot]

Hello BB community,

What Drugs are easy to synthesize and relatively cheap?

GHB and other stuff

 

[T0lek511]

In organic chemistry you can convert everything into everything but there is one little problem... efficency of procces and price. As a example you can buy sodium benzoate and then convert this stuff into benzene with high heat and NaOH. So you have benzene what to do now? Just buy acetone and make chlorine generator and make chloracetone then react chloracetone with benzene and you get P2P and via reductive amination you can get methamphetamine. But a yieald is very low about 5-10 percent.

 

[BettaFoxtrot]

In organic chemistry you can convert everything into everything but there is one little problem... efficency of procces and price. As a example you can buy sodium benzoate and then convert this stuff into benzene with high heat and NaOH. So you have benzene what to do now? Just buy acetone and make chlorine generator and make chloracetone then react chloracetone with benzene and you get P2P and via reductive amination you can get methamphetamine. But a yieald is very low about 5-10 percent.

T0lek511Thanks

 

[T0lek511]

I dont know if I answer to your question but I hope I helped you. So absolute question is no, you cant cheap produce drugs but you can make it from scratch but it cost something

 

[Frit Buchner]

Plant extracts are where it's at. Plants are great at chemistry. You could do what he said, but you could extract ephedra senensis or Kathus edulus and reduce it. It's a lot cheaper and easier. The Plants synthesized ephedrine and Catharines for you

 

[Frit Buchner]

Safrole euginol myristicin ephedrine cocaine dmt, harmaline, psilocin bufotenin.....practically every drug started as a plant extract

 

[abarrelwithbeeonit]

Anyone know where I can purchase safrole? I dont want make synthesis, just want the plant itself

 

[BevItUp]

Anyone know where I can purchase safrole? I dont want make synthesis, just want the plant itself

abarrelwithbeeonitSafrole is not actually a plant. It's an organic compound found in a numerous plants in varying amounts. The exact method used to extract the Safrole depends on the source.

In the USA the Sassafras tree (Sassafras albidum) grows naturally from about mid-Texas to the east coast. Steam distillation is used to extract the Sassafras oil from the root's bark, and the oil is somewhere around 75-85% Safrole. I also read that the Sassafras root is where the taste of root beer comes from. The name "ROOT beer" makes a lot more sense now!

A lot of different plants contain Safrole, including nutmeg and black pepper, but not many contain enough to be relevant. The source plants I think are most commonly used are:

1. Cinnamomum Burmannii is native to China and it's yield is like 95% Safrole
2. Ocotea odorifera is native to Brazil and yields about 90% Safrole
3. Sassafras albidum is native to USA and yields about 85%

Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, growing the plants and squeezing them for oil might not be the best way to go. That's a lot of work for something you can buy online. I've heard people say Sassafras oil is difficult to find, but where I live it's readily available in stores, including Walmart. Also, I've seen it for sale at Amazon, Ebay, and Etsy.

I'm not a chemist, I have trouble sweetening my Kool-Aid, but I've seen at least a couple ways to turn that newly acquired Sassafras oil into some glorious Safrole .

The method that seemed easiest to me came from the Hive archives. Their approach was to clean the impurities out of the Sassafras oil before attempting to extract the Safrole. After the Sassafras oil was "washed", the exact extraction process depends on who you're asking, but basically you put the oil in a freezer and then remove the Safrole crystals as they appear.

William Dampier wrote up the entire process for making MDMA starting from Sassafras oil, and his approach was to distill the Sassafras oil. The detailed write-up is here: Forums>Synthesis technologies and analysis>Amphetamines (phenylethylamines)>Complete MDMA synthesis from Sassafras oil with Al/Hg

 

[BevItUp]

Anyone know where I can purchase safrole? I dont want make synthesis, just want the plant itself

abarrelwithbeeonitRereading the thread, and my text above, I think I expended a bunch of time trying to answer a question no one asked.