Maximum temperature for cocaine recrystallization with ethanol

[Frit Buchner]

A/B extraction, now that is serious business. being able to do one is like tying your shoes, it's mandatory, but I avoid the shit out of it. I did an A)B on some meth last month and precipitated it via hcl dripped into sulfuric acid and the solvent was naptha. I done it on 5g of already-been-smoked brown stuff I pour out of the pipe each time. It was just home work for the gassing which I never done before. That being said I can get anything out of cocaine without an A/B. A triple wash with chloroform methylene chloride, even removes levamisole from the hcl without the need for neutralizing it

 

[Frit Buchner]

A/B extraction, now that is serious business. being able to do one is like tying your shoes, it's mandatory, but I avoid the shit out of it. I did an A)B on some meth last month and precipitated it via hcl dripped into sulfuric acid and the solvent was naptha. I done it on 5g of already-been-smoked brown stuff I pour out of the pipe each time. It was just home work for the gassing which I never done before. That being said I can get anything out of cocaine without an A/B. A triple wash with chloroform methylene chloride, even removes levamisole from the hcl without the need for neutralizing it

Frit BuchnerThat document seems to have been scrubbed from the web. Perhaps it didn't pass peer review. A shame. In it's absence I'll present to you this document which is the document that everyone cites from " the Microgram journal"when talking about levamisole/cocaine separation. Table 1 specifically

Next I will present to you this document from the Journal of Analytic toxicology that says 79% of samples of illicit cocaine containing PTHIT (levamisole/ dextramisole) contained 30% or less w/w, and 93% contained 40%or less PTHIT relative to cocaine hcl.

So 79% of samples would contain 4.1% or less PTHIT and 93 % of the samples would contain assumably less than 8% PTHIT, after starting at 30-40% after only 1 wash of the HCL with chloroform. This data point was derived by calculating the median figures between the 30% and 50% data points to estimate for the 40% point.
Comparing the data for 5 hexane washes in that same document one could reasonably conclude that subsequent chloroform washes would improve those figured even further.
Hence I maintain my position that a chloroform/water wash on the hcl salt of cocaine is a viable method for extracting levamisole from it.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

I have a question maybe you guys can enlighten me with here with your expertise. Once upon a time I had some coke of a seriously exceptional quality. Certain it was better than fishscale, but it could possibly be subjective. I know it came from a source in the carribean. It was pale yellow colored. It was dry but its consistency seemed kind of moist, like soft snow, you could press it up into clumps. There was clumps of a dried clay consistency in it. It was powdery/grainy but also like butter - sorry it is just hard to describe, haven't seen anything like it again. The shit even had little specs of dirt and stringy plant stem material in it - talk about "raw." Now, I'm not saying it couldn't have been adulterated, but I seriously doubt it.

So I was playing around with it, like the curious cat I am. I decided to throw some with some water in a spoon and cook up a rock. No baking soda. The shit oiled right up uniformly and flashed right into a rock even faster, didn't even have time to think about trying to group it up with a penny or shocking it with anything cold. Anyway, I am kind of confused about what you guys are saying about breaking the molecule / "oiling out" with excess heat. Is this what happened and some of it stayed behind as HCl salt in the water? Because I didn't add any base to it? This always confused me. I appreciate you guys, thank you.

 

[Frit Buchner]

I have a question maybe you guys can enlighten me with here with your expertise. Once upon a time I had some coke of a seriously exceptional quality. Certain it was better than fishscale, but it could possibly be subjective. I know it came from a source in the carribean. It was pale yellow colored. It was dry but its consistency seemed kind of moist, like soft snow, you could press it up into clumps. There was clumps of a dried clay consistency in it. It was powdery/grainy but also like butter - sorry it is just hard to describe, haven't seen anything like it again. The shit even had little specs of dirt and stringy plant stem material in it - talk about "raw." Now, I'm not saying it couldn't have been adulterated, but I seriously doubt it.

So I was playing around with it, like the curious cat I am. I decided to throw some with some water in a spoon and cook up a rock. No baking soda. The shit oiled right up uniformly and flashed right into a rock even faster, didn't even have time to think about trying to group it up with a penny or shocking it with anything cold. Anyway, I am kind of confused about what you guys are saying about breaking the molecule / "oiling out" with excess heat. Is this what happened and some of it stayed behind as HCl salt in the water? Because I didn't add any base to it? This always confused me. I appreciate you guys, thank you.

SoldadoDeDrogasThe fact that it turned to oil and separated from the water is clear evidence it was base cocaine. Dirt and plant material means it basically had to be this product. Who's name depends on where you are at.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_paste

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

You could sniff it/shoot it. It dissolved in water. I knew smokers who had to cook it if they wanted to smoke it. It wasn't THAT dirty, it was rather refined, but there was noticable organic material in it here and there. I'm thinking "fish scale" is probably the refined, recrystallized, pressed result of what this was.

SoldadoDeDrogasWoops I fucked up here... You could sniff it/shoot it. It dissolved in water. I knew smokers who had to cook it if they wanted to smoke it. It wasn't THAT dirty, it was rather refined, but there was noticable organic material in it here and there. I'm thinking "fish scale" is probably the refined, recrystallized, pressed result of what this was.

 

[Frit Buchner]

Woops I fucked up here... You could sniff it/shoot it. It dissolved in water. I knew smokers who had to cook it if they wanted to smoke it. It wasn't THAT dirty, it was rather refined, but there was noticable organic material in it here and there. I'm thinking "fish scale" is probably the refined, recrystallized, pressed result of what this was.

SoldadoDeDrogasIt was surely base though, or mixed with a base, 10% or better, which is the weight of hcl compared to cocaine. Well I'm lost. THEY had to cook it but you didn't. But you said you cooked it, without a base, so... A Person would have to heat it up to smoke it. BUT! When you smoke it, the fist thing that happens is you heat it up

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

It was surely base though, or mixed with a base, 10% or better, which is the weight of hcl compared to cocaine. Well I'm lost. THEY had to cook it but you didn't. But you said you cooked it, without a base, so... A Person would have to heat it up to smoke it. BUT! When you smoke it, the fist thing that happens is you heat it up

Frit Buchner" Well I'm lost. THEY had to cook it but you didn't. But you said you cooked it, without a base, so... A Person would have to heat it up to smoke it. BUT! When you smoke it, the fist thing that happens is you heat it up " WOT?

It makes about as much sense to me also. Like I said, it dissolved in water. You could sniff it or shoot it. I dissolved it in water, heated it up and it came right out and rocked up in an instant without adding any base.
You coulnd't smoke it without cooking it is what I am saying. I wasn't into smoking but people I know who smoked had to cook it like any other powder usually adding a little soda to it. Perhaps it was mixed with a base and I didn't know - what about a sulfate form?

 

[Frit Buchner]

I have to say, in response to this thread, that I got this boulder on Friday (well, wifey bought it for me and surprised me )

And I'm down to the last gram, and I cooked every speck of it into crack and I torched it harder than I ever have. Boiled it a couple times, ran the spoon dry, ect. And I didn't seem to lose any notable amount, so it must be tougher than I anticipated.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

I have to say, in response to this thread, that I got this boulder on Friday (well, wifey bought it for me and surprised me )
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And I'm down to the last gram, and I cooked every speck of it into crack and I torched it harder than I ever have. Boiled it a couple times, ran the spoon dry, ect. And I didn't seem to lose any notable amount, so it must be tougher than I anticipated.

Frit BuchnerI miss having a sugar mama. ;]

 

[Frit Buchner]

I miss having a sugar mama. ;]

SoldadoDeDrogasI got a bell ringer almost every hit off this stuff. It's weird because it isn't any better than usual but literally 9/10 was yhe Jetsons flying by on the space ship and black dudes talking outside my window. I'm still hearing people. Of course I had to smoke some crack and meth just to get the kids 8n the bus. Ain't slept in 3 days

 

[Frit Buchner]

I got a bell ringer almost every hit off this stuff. It's weird because it isn't any better than usual but literally 9/10 was yhe Jetsons flying by on the space ship and black dudes talking outside my window. I'm still hearing people. Of course I had to smoke some crack and meth just to get the kids 8n the bus. Ain't slept in 3 days