Methamphetamine crystallization and Ice manufacturing

[G.Patton]

@G.Patton

Thats the question, your answer is just after. You said L-Meth.

So, don't you mean Racemic?

FensterYou have to get L-Meth, then carry out procedures, which are described in the post.

 

[Fenster]

You have to get L-Meth, then carry out procedures, which are described in the post.

G.PattonI'm sorry, which post?

The original post is a description of how to crystalise meth after a reductive amination of p2p. After this there is some vague descriptions in the comments about rectification but nothing about L-Meth specifically.

Sorry can you please clarify what you mean by "L-Meth" or point me to #step 1 where you are saying we need to get L-Meth (aka the least active isomer).

If what your saying is true, we can make d meth from Vicks inhalers. So yeah that would be a huge plus for your site , and clandestine synthesis in general.

 

[Fenster]

The way #1.
A one-mole batch of P2P with 100% conversion would result in 149 g (one mole) of methamphetamine base, but the typical yield is 90-93%, resulting in 134-140 g of base.

P2P will result in racemic methamphetamine. I'm not sure where you got L-Meth from. Please advise?

 

[Charlie3]

You should dry it well with vacuum. I think it helps. Probably you have used not distilled petroleum ether. Am I right?

G.Pattoni think so, will try to vacuum it and update here.

 

[G.Patton]

P2P will result in racemic methamphetamine. I'm not sure where you got L-Meth from. Please advise?

FensterYou got racemic methamphetamine free base, then you can carry out procedures with d-tartaric acid, which allows you to get L-meth. There is manual for amphetamine, methamphetamine isomerization is the same

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

P2P will result in racemic methamphetamine. I'm not sure where you got L-Meth from. Please advise?

FensterPrecipitate with either d-tartric and discard the precipitate then proceed to adding sulphuric OR use l-tartric discarding the liquid phase re-freebasing the l-tartrate d-amphetamine salt then proceed as normal, extracting, precipitating.
Same procedure can be done with camphorsulphonic acid, same principles apply for the 2 isomers.

 

[finch3523]

I saw some meth which was pure d-meth but was not crystallized. It looked more like many small clumps or rice. What method would that be?

I dont want to get stuff like a gas bubbler apparatus. I dont care if the end product is shards. So what would be most simple way to have a stable water soluble endproduct? I want to mix the meth with water at the end so I can dose it in mililiters. eg. 5ml would contain 10mg of meth.
Is freebase watersoluble? Probably not since it is oily??? What would be quickest thing to do with the freebase so its water soluble and stable?

 

[G.Patton]

So what would be most simple way to have a stable water soluble endproduct?

finch3523Methamphetamine salts are water soluble.

Is freebase watersoluble? Probably not since it is oily??? What would be quickest thing to do with the freebase so its water soluble and stable?

No, it isn't soluble in water. The simplest way is to make salt form.

 

[Hank Schrader]

It is one of the purest forms of methamphetamine and has a dextro isomer.

To date, we have high quality indicators, the purity of methamphetamine has reached 99% +

Metaphetamine has a specific rotation
the optically pure D isomer is [α]20D = -18.90° at 99%+ purity.

My product contains only dextromethamphetamine. We use fractional basic distillation and re-purification.
We do not dilute with methylbenzylamine and other substances.
Our product has the correct melting point

Our organization is ready for cooperation and is ready to cooperate with both manufacturers and large buyers.

We are ready to help with the supply of ready-made precursors and complete sets for work, as well as wholesale batches of finished products.

 

[StarWars]

It is one of the purest forms of methamphetamine and has a dextro isomer.

To date, we have high quality indicators, the purity of methamphetamine has reached 99% +

Metaphetamine has a specific rotation
the optically pure D isomer is [α]20D = -18.90° at 99%+ purity.

My product contains only dextromethamphetamine. We use fractional basic distillation and re-purification.
We do not dilute with methylbenzylamine and other substances.
Our product has the correct melting point

Our organization is ready for cooperation and is ready to cooperate with both manufacturers and large buyers.

We are ready to help with the supply of ready-made precursors and complete sets for work, as well as wholesale batches of finished products.

Hank SchraderHow to get like this crystal ??

 

[Joeking]

How to get like this crystal ??

StarWarsIs this form smokable?

 

[adrenochrome]

It is one of the purest forms of methamphetamine and has a dextro isomer.

To date, we have high quality indicators, the purity of methamphetamine has reached 99% +

Metaphetamine has a specific rotation
the optically pure D isomer is [α]20D = -18.90° at 99%+ purity.

My product contains only dextromethamphetamine. We use fractional basic distillation and re-purification.
We do not dilute with methylbenzylamine and other substances.
Our product has the correct melting point

Our organization is ready for cooperation and is ready to cooperate with both manufacturers and large buyers.

We are ready to help with the supply of ready-made precursors and complete sets for work, as well as wholesale batches of finished products.

Hank SchraderI'm interested in how to make ice with racemate meth, does anyone know a detailed technique?

 

[adrenochrome]

EU resolution has to be done to it racemic FB cannot make shard that's why they invented back in 2008 n-isopropylbenzylamine so that cartels weren't loosing half the weight extracting the dmeth out
Now that mix racemic FB with n-iso 1 to1 and it shards up

Lordoftheshardvery grateful for the info. do you have a link or info how to do d-meth from l-meth ?

 

[Hank Schrader]

very grateful for the info. do you have a link or info how to do d-meth from l-meth ?

adrenochromeYou need to find information: racemization process

 

[tripeep]

It is one of the purest forms of methamphetamine and has a dextro isomer.

To date, we have high quality indicators, the purity of methamphetamine has reached 99% +

Metaphetamine has a specific rotation
the optically pure D isomer is [α]20D = -18.90° at 99%+ purity.

My product contains only dextromethamphetamine. We use fractional basic distillation and re-purification.
We do not dilute with methylbenzylamine and other substances.
Our product has the correct melting point

Our organization is ready for cooperation and is ready to cooperate with both manufacturers and large buyers.

We are ready to help with the supply of ready-made precursors and complete sets for work, as well as wholesale batches of finished products.

Hank Schradercan you tell me how to crystallized a big rocks ?

 

[tripeep]

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G.Pattoncan i replace pseudoephedrine/ephedrine with phenylpropanolamine hcl for meth synthesis using moscow routes ?

 

[G.Patton]

can i replace pseudoephedrine/ephedrine with phenylpropanolamine hcl for meth synthesis using moscow routes ?

tripeepNo, you won't get meth

 

[Kellyun]

@Hank Schrader Good Work My Friend ! I am very Interested in working with you

 

[WinterDust]

@Hank Schrader , you have turned on your privacy settings so it is not possible to get in contact with you.

Send me a DM, I'd like to talk.

Best

 

[Davidrobinson]

Can you give any insight into the isomer seperation hank?

 

[Lordoftheshard]

Only d meth makes shards and there are many tech To do so
I'm going to set the record straight this fester crap about HCl gassing gives you Ice and shards is bullshit it only works if you use freon or liquid nitrogen if going to use HCl has
The best shards are made buy doing a 20%dh20rexal of the the tritated fb oil to pH 5.8and the crystallizing dish of Pyrex tray left in a cupboard under UV black lights and.must not be disturbed at all for at least a week minimum it takes time to make superior product
I'll tell you all another trick if you just pH your FB oil and just leaves it alone it will evap and dehydrate to ice to this is how the Chinese do it it's all about being patient
But this gassing in toluene and ether will only make you a powdered product that will have to be rexalled to make Ice only freon or liquid. Nitrogen will make instant I'ce once the HCl gas comes in contact with it

 

[G.Patton]

Only d meth makes shards and there are many tech To do so
I'm going to set the record straight this fester crap about HCl gassing gives you Ice and shards is bullshit it only works if you use freon or liquid nitrogen if going to use HCl has
The best shards are made buy doing a 20%dh20rexal of the the tritated fb oil to pH 5.8and the crystallizing dish of Pyrex tray left in a cupboard under UV black lights and.must not be disturbed at all for at least a week minimum it takes time to make superior product
I'll tell you all another trick if you just pH your FB oil and just leaves it alone it will evap and dehydrate to ice to this is how the Chinese do it it's all about being patient
But this gassing in toluene and ether will only make you a powdered product that will have to be rexalled to make Ice only freon or liquid. Nitrogen will make instant I'ce once the HCl gas comes in contact with it

LordoftheshardI'm sorry, what is "buy doing a 20%dh20rexal"? And what is "UV black lights"? Do you know that UV can't be black? =)

 

[41Dxflatline]

I'm sorry, what is "buy doing a 20%dh20rexal"? And what is "UV black lights"? Do you know that UV can't be black? =)

G.PattonA "black light" is a specific range of UV that is almost invisible until it vibrantly reflects off of phosphors in the environment. You'll have seen it before. People use it to find blood and cum that has been cleaned up and club/rave atmosphere

 

[adrenochrome]

Only d meth makes shards and there are many tech To do so
I'm going to set the record straight this fester crap about HCl gassing gives you Ice and shards is bullshit it only works if you use freon or liquid nitrogen if going to use HCl has
The best shards are made buy doing a 20%dh20rexal of the the tritated fb oil to pH 5.8and the crystallizing dish of Pyrex tray left in a cupboard under UV black lights and.must not be disturbed at all for at least a week minimum it takes time to make superior product
I'll tell you all another trick if you just pH your FB oil and just leaves it alone it will evap and dehydrate to ice to this is how the Chinese do it it's all about being patient
But this gassing in toluene and ether will only make you a powdered product that will have to be rexalled to make Ice only freon or liquid. Nitrogen will make instant I'ce once the HCl gas comes in contact with it

Lordoftheshardok friend. i did all u say
but where is crystall?
sorry this site cant load picture

 

[Lordoftheshard]

1 do some home work
UV Fluorescent Black Light BL 12inch (full length) Replace Light Bulb 8Watt T5 UVA
2 20%of the total weight of the the product dh20 recrystallisation eg 1000g MA add 200g of dh20 heat dissolve then place under UV black light
And I tell you straight don't try and belittle me and try and make me look like ,I don't know what I'm talking about ok
I come to this community with ,20years experience and I don't need to copy and paste Fester bullshit for answers ok
I have worked in ,labs all over the world

 

[G.Patton]

1 do some home work
UV Fluorescent Black Light BL 12inch (full length) Replace Light Bulb 8Watt T5 UVA
2 20%of the total weight of the the product dh20 recrystallisation eg 1000g MA add 200g of dh20 heat dissolve then place under UV black light
And I tell you straight don't try and belittle me and try and make me look like ,I don't know what I'm talking about ok
I come to this community with ,20years experience and I don't need to copy and paste Fester bullshit for answers ok
I have worked in ,labs all over the world

Lordoftheshard

1 do some home work

Looks that you didn't read forum Rules. I recommend you to change your communication tone, ok?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet UV has wavelength from 10 nm to 400 nm. You cannot get "black light" lol

dh20

Sorry, I don't know what is it.

I come to this community with ,20years experience

It doesn't give you any extra rights to be rude and badmouthing.

I have worked in ,labs all over the world

for sure

 

[Lordoftheshard]

Looks that you didn't read forum Rules. I recommend you to change your communication tone, ok?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet UV has wavelength from 10 nm to 400 nm. You cannot get "black light" lol

Sorry, I don't know what is it.

It doesn't give you any extra rights to be rude and badmouthing.

for sure

G.PattonOk no dramas but that's what they are called UV black lights google it
We all learn off each other I've educated my self thanks to you posts on bmk glycidate p2,P to meth
As I specialise in doing hypophosphourous acid iodine and pseudo and ephedrine synths and trans 4 methylaminorex synths
My contact in China told me about the bmk glycidate route to meth as you can get tons of it and the methylamine and sodium borohydride etc
This is how the meth is being made world wide ATM as psuedo ephedrine and norepinephrine the DEA have put a clamp on this world wide
And the bmk way is a quarter of the cust then doing pseudo cooks financially viable and while it's legal ATM the Chinese have set up there own clearence company's in USA Aus De and EU so they can guarantee you will get everything you need at least my contact have

 

[WinterDust]

1 do some home work
UV Fluorescent Black Light BL 12inch (full length) Replace Light Bulb 8Watt T5 UVA
2 20%of the total weight of the the product dh20 recrystallisation eg 1000g MA add 200g of dh20 heat dissolve then place under UV black light
And I tell you straight don't try and belittle me and try and make me look like ,I don't know what I'm talking about ok
I come to this community with ,20years experience and I don't need to copy and paste Fester bullshit for answers ok
I have worked in ,labs all over the world

LordoftheshardIt's your keyboard-warrior attitude people have a problem with.

The more more you try the more you loose your credibility.

So how about you change the tone?

 

[adrenochrome]

It's your keyboard-warrior attitude people have a problem with.

The more more you try the more you loose your credibility.

So how about you change the tone?

ImOutAlsoI didn’t understand anything, but it’s interesting, in general and in fact, you can explain the technique normally

 

[Lordoftheshard]

It's your keyboard-warrior attitude people have a problem with.

The more more you try the more you loose your credibility.

So how about you change the tone?

ImOutAlsoIf you had taken the time to see I apologized ti Mr Paton ok let's move in what didnt you understand and I'll explain so you do

 

[triptonaut123]

1 do some home work
UV Fluorescent Black Light BL 12inch (full length) Replace Light Bulb 8Watt T5 UVA
2 20%of the total weight of the the product dh20 recrystallisation eg 1000g MA add 200g of dh20 heat dissolve then place under UV black light
And I tell you straight don't try and belittle me and try and make me look like ,I don't know what I'm talking about ok
I come to this community with ,20years experience and I don't need to copy and paste Fester bullshit for answers ok
I have worked in ,labs all over the world

Lordoftheshard20 years of experience has teached you to put a blacklight on a aqueous meth solution to selectively crystallize d-meth? Publish that shit in the Nature journal buddy, it's ground-breaking. What selectivity - if I ignore all the other nonesense for a minute - would a UV light have on the D-meth molecule vs the L-meth? None, because it is excited exactly the same, it has all the same physical properties.
I don't know why you try to take this people in your fantasy world but it's shameful to be honest.

 

[Cardboard1234]

I was told I could follow method #2 here to obtain crystalline methamphetamine, but this looks like synthesis from methamphetamine free base and NOT amphetamine free base. Can anyone verify if these steps could be followed with amphetamine free base? If not, how can I convert amphetamine to methamphetamine? I have only found this method here. Is there any other way? Mercury Nitrate is not something for sale where I'm from.

 

[G.Patton]

I was told I could follow method #2 here to obtain crystalline methamphetamine, but this looks like synthesis from methamphetamine free base and NOT amphetamine free base. Can anyone verify if these steps could be followed with amphetamine free base? If not, how can I convert amphetamine to methamphetamine? I have only found this method here. Is there any other way? Mercury Nitrate is not something for sale where I'm from.

Cardboard1234You can use HgCl2 or carry out NaBH4 reduction instead of An/Hg method.

 

[Cardboard1234]

You can use HgCl2 or carry out NaBH4 reduction instead of An/Hg method.

G.PattonRead about synthesizing aluminium Amalgam with HgCl2 and MeOH on your thread. Couldn't find anything related to the NaBH4 though, but I did come across a similar question in another thread. where ImOutAlso asked about Question 2 and I'm not very clear on the context. Is the NaBH4 used to synthesize Aluminium Amalgam or instead of using amalgam, we use NaBH4 for the entire step 3 instead where [1 mole of free amph base] is combined with a mixture of [1mol formaldehyde and 350ml ethanol] + [ 1-1.2moles of excess NaBH4] ?

 

[G.Patton]

Read about synthesizing aluminium Amalgam with HgCl2 and MeOH on your thread. Couldn't find anything related to the NaBH4 though, but I did come across a similar question in another thread. where ImOutAlso asked about Question 2 and I'm not very clear on the context. Is the NaBH4 used to synthesize Aluminium Amalgam or instead of using amalgam, we use NaBH4 for the entire step 3 instead where [1 mole of free amph base] is combined with a mixture of [1mol formaldehyde and 350ml ethanol] + [ 1-1.2moles of excess NaBH4] ?

Cardboard1234You can use NaBH4 instead of Al/Hg. It means that you have to exclude Al and mercury nitrate at all and use NaBH4 as you said. I think it will work as well.

[ 1-1.2moles of excess NaBH4]

Not sure that it would be enough but you can start from 1:1.2 ratio and, according with yield and TLC, increase its amount.