"MY" MDMA freebase crystallization

[FredDurst]

8. Solve the powder in distilled hot water(1gr/1ml).

9. When all the powder is solved Heat the mixture until 112C with some stirring and throw It fast into the cristallization bucket choosen.

btcboss2022Hi mate. I have a few questions about this part of your procedure

Do you leave the mixture at 112c until water boils away or just get to that temp and pour straight in the bucket?

In the bucket you have cold acetone again?

Do you not loose loads of product in the remaining water?

Thanks

 

[kharpa177]

Hi mate. I have a few questions about this part of your procedure

Do you leave the mixture at 112c until water boils away or just get to that temp and pour straight in the bucket?

In the bucket you have cold acetone again?

Do you not loose loads of product in the remaining water?

Thanks

FredDurstthere are so many methods that even people are confused... I used this method and it doesn't work... some say crystallization at room temperature with cold acetone... others say it's by heating

 

[bblanco]

I used this method offered by TS with the product sold by TS on 108C. This method works and crystals grow, but neither big nor clean. The percentage of the pollutants was so huge that all my solution at the end of evaporation was completely black. The crystals themselves were from grey to black. I'm not sure if this product had any preliminary purification. Obviously, such product is not acceptable for consumption.
Then, with such load of impurities the crystals start to grow around all these impurities as nucleation centers.
So I had to finish it with acid base extraction and the result is good.
So the method works but not undoubtedly. And by a funny coincidence, this does not apply to the product sold by the author.
Photos of the cleanest part of crystals, turned to the base and most dirty part of crystals after they were smashed and washed with acetone.
Still hesitating, shall I try to grow big crystals or leave it as it is in pure white powder form.

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Policja Polskashulgin writes this:

"The actual form that the final salt takes depends upon the temperature and concentration at the moment of the initial crystallization. It can be anhydrous, or it can be any of several hydrated forms. Only the anhydrous form has a sharp mp; the published reports describe all possible one degree melting point values over the range from 148-153 ° C. The variously hydrated polymorphs have distinct infrared spectra, but have broad mps that depend on the rate of heating. "

 

[bblanco]

I used this method offered by TS with the product sold by TS on 108C. This method works and crystals grow, but neither big nor clean. The percentage of the pollutants was so huge that all my solution at the end of evaporation was completely black. The crystals themselves were from grey to black. I'm not sure if this product had any preliminary purification. Obviously, such product is not acceptable for consumption.
Then, with such load of impurities the crystals start to grow around all these impurities as nucleation centers.
So I had to finish it with acid base extraction and the result is good.
So the method works but not undoubtedly. And by a funny coincidence, this does not apply to the product sold by the author.
Photos of the cleanest part of crystals, turned to the base and most dirty part of crystals after they were smashed and washed with acetone.
Still hesitating, shall I try to grow big crystals or leave it as it is in pure white powder form.

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Policja Polskai had one set up test based on dry ipa and xylene... i think i have to work on the one with xylene.... will do right now.. tbc..,

 

[Mr Good Cat]

i had one set up test based on dry ipa and xylene... i think i have to work on the one with xylene.... will do right now.. tbc..,

bblancoto be honest, I really like the method of crystallization of oversaturation solutions MDMA HCl + water, described by btcboss.
I did try it and it works perfectly if certain conditions applied. This shall be really calm place, without air flows and vibrations.
Once I did the stupidity - turned on the washing machine while crystallization was going on. As the result crystals grown not so nice and a kind of "small"

 

[Mr Good Cat]

shulgin writes this:

"The actual form that the final salt takes depends upon the temperature and concentration at the moment of the initial crystallization. It can be anhydrous, or it can be any of several hydrated forms. Only the anhydrous form has a sharp mp; the published reports describe all possible one degree melting point values over the range from 148-153 ° C. The variously hydrated polymorphs have distinct infrared spectra, but have broad mps that depend on the rate of heating. "

bblancocheck this picture, pls., it explains the importance of correct temperature pretty well.
if temperature of the solution grows, the saturation grows as well.
you can also read about Raoult's laws. briefly, is says: boiling temperature of the solution depends on the molar quantity of saturated salt. so, this temperature 108C suggested by @btcboss2022 probably reffers to the highest point of the "size" graph.
on the other side, the impurities become crystallization centers as well, so "dirty" solution will not bear you big crystals.

 

[bblanco]

OK! but you get the sand kind of crystals?

 

[Mr Good Cat]

OK! but you get the sand kind of crystals?

bblanconop: i got smaller crystals, around 3-5 x 7-10 mm in my case. it was caused by vibrations, i think.

 

[bblanco]

nop: i got smaller crystals, around 3-5 x 7-10 mm in my case. it was caused by vibrations, i think.

Policja Polskathink this might work also hahah..

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/mdma-ecstasy-purification-method.404/

 

[Mr Good Cat]

think this might work also hahah..

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/mdma-ecstasy-purification-method.404/

bblancoI tried this method as well: you can find my report there. It is quite simple and relatively fast. Then, due to high percentage of liquid, it is quite good for purification.
Still not sure, what temperature and IPA volume shall be used to grow crystals about 2-3 x 3-7 cm.
Intuitively I feel, dissolving IPA temperature shall be around 36-40C, that allows you to use bigger volume, then slow cooling at RT or in the regular cooling camera. Probably I will try do such "research" on some opportunity.

 

[kharpa177]

.my mdma got like this
I tested 80mg and I get very strong

 

[Mr Good Cat]

.my mdma got like this
I tested 80mg and I get very strong

kharpa17780 mg only? do you make S-isomer?

 

[btcboss2022]

80 mg only? do you make S-isomer?

Policja PolskaThe best effects of MDMA are in its racemic form its a fact ;-)

 

[Mr Good Cat]

The best effects of MDMA are in its racemic form its a fact ;-)

btcboss2022I think it is a kind of religion)))

 

[btcboss2022]

I think it is a kind of religion)))

Policja PolskaYes its optimus high religion hahahah

 

[kharpa177]

80 mg only? do you make S-isomer?

Policja PolskaWickr me : monster466

 

[kharpa177]

80 mg only? do you make S-isomer?

Policja PolskaI did it using the almagama method .. my crystals were very white .. cold temperature crystallization and dripping acid in the freebase with cold acetone

A Photo Essay on the Nitromethane Al/Hg

 

[kharpa177]

80 mg only? do you make S-isomer?

Policja Polska0.1 g on the scale was enough for my joy I made and tasted several doses of joy

 

[kharpa177]

80 mg only? do you make S-isomer?

Policja Polska100mg

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Yes its optimus high religion hahahah

btcboss2022I know what is S-isomer and I believe it is not more powerful, but much much different from racemat.
At the same time I handled the batch I got from you after purification and crystallization to the same guy who opened for me S-isomer world, and he said it is the best product he tried.
It is funny, but it is true.

Some sources say, the best proportion of S:R for MDMA is 2:1, other 1:2. Probably I will try to check both options if I have time.

 

[Davidrobinson]

What re cleaning method did you use on that?

 

[kharpa177]

What re cleaning method did you use on that?

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