N-Ethylpentedrone Synthesis

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Isn't it necessary to add solvent before adding ethylamine?
 

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Is it necessary to stir that long ? Can't we just heat gently (~50/60°C) with a good stirring for just a few hours like for α-pvp (if the reaction takes place in ethyl acetate) ?
 

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You can try and let us know. We haven't carried out an experiment.
 
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Yield was 40% (by mass, from a-bromovalerophenone) but reagents hasn't been tested before and possible mistakes during the reaction. I'll try again soon and write a more detailled review
 

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@G.Patton Do you know any simple method/company to test a-bvp quality ?
 

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How much in grams or % in moles? Looking forward your report!
 

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We works in europe but I wondered if companies could legally do that as it can be considered as "help" for the drug synthesis
 

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~20L of a-bvp (=25/26kg) and gave 10kg after recrystallisation but I fear the bromo has been diluted or is just not pure enough bc it gave poor yield on simple alpha pvp synthesis too.
I believe we can achieve 70% (maybe we could heat gently).

Can we follow this reaction by pH ? Conductimetry ?
 

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What do u mean "follow this erection"? You can check its completeness by TLC.

10kg is 34.4% yield in moles from 26.2 kg (20 L). It's too small for this synthesis. Common yield is 70-85%.
 

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Currently working on that, I'll let you know
 

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Hi.
1-phenyl-2-bromopentan-1-one after bromination reaction is 2-bromovalerophenone CAS: 49851-31-2?
I already have 2BV ready, in the description it is written that you do not need to use a solvent during amination.
I pour 2BV, add ethylamine, separate the phases, acidify, filter and that's it? Can I use:
1) 2-bromovalerophenone
2) ethyl acetate
3) ethylamine
4) distilled water to separate the phases
5) acetone
6) acidification
7) filtration
 

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yes, I got a poor yield using this solvent but I believe it's due to a bad quality 2BV more than a protocol issue
 

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@Czekamnalepszedni
Hello, yes, there is clearly said about this in the article and synthesis reaction scheme
Yes, the synthesis quite simple
 

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Is it mandatory to apply the HCI gas process? Can I not apply it?
 

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@Rua Hello, if you want to get NEP hydrochloride salt powder or crystals, you need you use HCl gas or HCl acid anyway.
 

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Ethylmine aqueous solution cas no ??
 

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Hello @G.Patton I will use hydrochloric acid I think I need to use methylamine 40%. I need to add it drop by drop during synthesis. How many degrees should I keep the temperature while adding?
 
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How much water is ethylamine % 70 or 50?
 

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instead of ethylamine ethyl acetateCan I use it?
 

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@G.Patton Should I use ethylmine aqueous solution or methylmine? Can you give me the cas no. What is the percentage of water?
 

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