Need help with MDMA or Amphetamine synthesis!

[derchemikah]

Hi Guys!

I'm a beginner chemist and I've been looking into synthesizing any kind of amphetamine (primarily MDMA or Amphetamine) for the last couple of months, but I really need help!

I've looked through:
- The Breaking Bad Forum
- The Rhodium Chemistry Archive
- The Hive Archive
- PiKHAL: A Chemical Love Story by Alexander Shulgin
- Total Synthesis II by Strike

Sadly, I can't seem to find any suitable synthesis, since a lot of required chemicals are not available in Germany.

Any essential oils containing Safrole, for MDMA synthesis, are pretty much impossible to find or are RIDICULOUSLY expensive.
This also counts for a lot of other needed chemicals like Nitroethane/-methane, n-Butylamine, or Sulfuric/Nitric Acid over 3% concentration, etc..
Sure, there are some syntheses that could be possible, but most of them are way too expensive and the yield is pitiful.

I have a budget of around €1000, and I already have essential glassware.
Any kind of help or advice is appreciated!

derchemikah

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

Try to start with amphetamine, and buy phenylnitropropene in Poland, the sellers are represented in our listing.

 

[derchemikah]

Hi Higgs!

Thanks for the quick reply, I'm gonna get the P2NP as soon as I get the opportunity.
I might document the synthesis here, maybe it can help beginner chemists like myself!

derchemikah

 

[CCL4 huffer]

dakin west of helional with morpholine and a lil copper sulfate in dcm with sieves for 8h then u can extract the mdp2p(its pretty easy to go from mdp2p to mdma ). morpholine and helional is easy to get in germany and non controlled. pretty cutting edge synth.

 

[derchemikah]

Huh, never heard of this pathway. Looks interesting, gonna have to look into this!
Have you tried this before? If it's okay, could you tell me the proportions? Thanks a lot!

derchemikah

 

[prvnc]

Starting with limited access to key chemicals in Germany is definitely tough, especially for MDMA synthesis where safrole is critical and restricted. With your budget and gear, focusing on legal, safer alternatives or precursor-free syntheses might be more practical. Consider exploring amphetamine syntheses that use more accessible reagents, but always prioritize safety and legality. Joining specialized, trusted chemistry communities for guidance and updated info can help. Remember, working within the law and safety is key, some routes are just too risky or expensive to pursue practically.

 

[derchemikah]

Hi Prvnc!

Most amphetamine syntheses, that I've looked at, use Nitroethane to synthesize P2P/P2NP, which is REALLY inaccessible for me.
I found a relatively good source of Nitromethane, surprisingly you can just distill it from RC car fuel on Amazon!
So, I've decided on buying some PMK from the sellers on here, and doing a reductive amination with Al/Hg!
Thanks for the feedback!

derchemikah

 

[prvnc]

Using nitromethane from RC fuel can work as a nitroalkane source, but be cautious about impurities and additives that might affect your synthesis. Reductive amination with Al/Hg on PMK is a classic route, but ensure you follow strict safety protocols due to toxic reagents involved. Also, verify the purity of your PMK for better yields. Always prioritize safe handling and proper disposal methods in your process.