Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

[hjames]

I only have 4000ml round bottom flask right now, I hope it won't be "too big" for a small scales like 10gr?
I apologize for my (stupid) questions

 

[Pavel]

Is it better thicker or thinner alu foil?
I can obtain 9,10,11,12 microns thickness

hjames0.1mm or 0.2 mm .... 0.5 mm or even more like 1mm depend of quantity. Dear sir G.Patton Perhaps it would be valuable to add to the recipe that it is better to use a sheet of aluminium instead of foil. This calms the reaction and does not limit the quantity. you can also attach these sheets to the line and when the reaction becomes too violent you can pull out a few sheets until it calms down.

 

[G.Patton]

I only have 4000ml round bottom flask right now, I hope it won't be "too big" for a small scales like 10gr?
I apologize for my (stupid) questions

hjamesIt would be not convenient, but okay.

 

[G.Patton]

0.1mm or 0.2 mm .... 0.5 mm or even more like 1mm depend of quantity. Dear sir G.Patton Perhaps it would be valuable to add to the recipe that it is better to use a sheet of aluminium instead of foil. This calms the reaction and does not limit the quantity. you can also attach these sheets to the line and when the reaction becomes too violent you can pull out a few sheets until it calms down.

PavelYou have to use thin Al. Al sheets are to thick. Your idea with line won't work as you imagine.

 

[Pavel]

Again, I apologize for tagging you and not the author. I am from a poor country where experimenters can only dream of such equipment as in the video. And the people involved professionally do not use this method. We could have: an electric stove, a pot, a wine rack, a jar, a bottle, a bucket. - This type of equipment. and with 0.25kg of aluminum everything will boil and fly out.... But if you use sheet metal....

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Again, I apologize for tagging you and not the author. I am from a poor country where experimenters can only dream of such equipment as in the video. And the people involved professionally do not use this method. We could have: an electric stove, a pot, a wine rack, a jar, a bottle, a bucket. - This type of equipment. and with 0.25kg of aluminum everything will boil and fly out.... But if you use sheet metal....

PavelThere is somebody here experimenting with thicker alu supposedly doing 1kg reactions, but patton is right, foil works best.You are welcome to try but you will beat your head against the wall.I personally tried discs, pellets, sheet NOTHING worked better than 0.25 thickness aluminium obtained from weighting discs, it's almost foil but not quite.
Also I refuse to believe you don't have plastic barrels and piping. Jacketed reactor with a barrel within a larger barrel, condenser a big pipe inside a small one, smaller tubes fitted for water flow boom you have a really good reactor setup.

 

[the money]

100 ml Isopropyl alcohol (IPA)

HIGGS BOSSONCan I use ethanol instead of isopropyl alcohol?

 

[G.Patton]

Can I use ethanol instead of isopropyl alcohol?

ForyouI think yes, P2NP is soluble in EtOH.

 

[the money]

I think yes, P2NP is soluble in EtOH.

G.PattonThank you for all your efforts
You will always be the mountain I lean on

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Ethanole doesn't separate as well as isopropanol, this might lower your yield

 

[the money]

In my country, it is difficult to obtain isopropyl alcohol, but it is easy to obtain ethanol

 

[G. Chauich]

If done correctly, how many grams of amphetamine should be able to be produced?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

If done correctly, how many grams of amphetamine should be able to be produced?

G. Chauich"The yield is 60-70%."

 

[Xiaoyan]

Hello,

How can I be sure that I have cleaned all the mercury residues in the amalgamation process??

What other product can be used to reduce sulfuric acid??
other than acetone, to avoid such a strong smell...

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Hello,

How can I be sure that I have cleaned all the mercury residues in the amalgamation process??

What other product can be used to reduce sulfuric acid??
other than acetone, to avoid such a strong smell...

XiaoyanAs long as there is enough aluminium your mercury salts will get eaten up by it, turning into metallic mercury and making an alloy with the Al.Now rinsing will get rid of residual water soluble salts and solvent extraction will ensure minimal contamination (Neither metallic mercury or salts are soluble in water too well).These extracts are dried with drying agent, further driving water and it's contaminants away.If you still feel iffy after these steps you can go ahead and steam distill.
If you mean to dillute sulphuric acid you can use IPA.

 

[Xiaoyan]

As long as there is enough aluminium your mercury salts will get eaten up by it, turning into metallic mercury and making an alloy with the Al.Now rinsing will get rid of residual water soluble salts and solvent extraction will ensure minimal contamination (Neither metallic mercury or salts are soluble in water too well).These extracts are dried with drying agent, further driving water and it's contaminants away.If you still feel iffy after these steps you can go ahead and steam distill.
If you mean to dillute sulphuric acid you can use IPA.

UWe9o12jkied91dTo clean aluminum, what I do is rinse it several times with distilled water, but it keeps coming out dirty gray, does that mean it's contaminated? or why is this happening?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

To clean aluminum, what I do is rinse it several times with distilled water, but it keeps coming out dirty gray, does that mean it's contaminated? or why is this happening?

XiaoyanThat is just fine alumina coming off the pieces of aluminium.

 

[nkd23]

Is it possible to cock at home (not more then 10g P2NP)
Should you use a gass mask? ( because of the hg)

 

[Pavel]

Is it possible to cock at home (not more then 10g P2NP)
Should you use a gass mask? ( because of the hg)

nkd231. good ventilation
1. Eye protection
2. face protection
2. hand protection
3. gas mask -??? ok! - you know what type of filter need to use??
hg is poisoning but please think Your grandma possible broke couple of hg thermometer....
MAIN PROBLEM is eat hg not smell, do not touch face, especially lips, eye, do not eat or drink before wash. be careful when go toilet

 

[G.Patton]

Should you use a gass mask? ( because of the hg)

nkd23It worth to use protection, you have just one body.

 

[nkd23]

I have tyvak full body suits and mask dräger xplore 3500 mask with A1B1E1K1 filter

Is it safe to do small batches (5-15g P2NP) at home?


And what do you do with the waste?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

I have tyvak full body suits and mask dräger xplore 3500 mask with A1B1E1K1 filter

Is it safe to do small batches (5-15g P2NP) at home?


And what do you do with the waste?

nkd23Just run tubing from your condenser to the outside if you are so inclined.But just so you know it takes entire grams of mercury salts directly ingested to kill you in the near future.If you are potentially exposed take a regimen of 50mg alpha lipoic acid for a month or so a few days after potential exposure. Do not take more than 50mg / day.

Everything is possible with the right attitude.

 

[nkd23]

That's the reasen I asked

I don't wanna poisen me or an other

The filter for the mask is for hg and all the bad stuff

Tub out of the window is a good idea

Can I put the tube from the condenser in an beaker with liquid that binds or neutralize the hg/mercury vapors?


And what are you doing with the waste for example the amalgamation (water rinses)?