Im wondering if more than 10g of P2NP can be added. Seems like a lot of work for such a small amount produced. Theres a shitload of aluminum in there and i cant help but wonder how much more could you react and still have efficient reduction. Could you maybe get away with 50g?
Is it a necessity to rinse the aluminum with mercury ? I see another synth does the same recipe expect no mercury wash and they use nickel and ethanol instead of iso and acid to hold the aluminum during rxn
Can someone explain what the chemical reaction is ? I understand some of what is happening but not enough. Is this a reduction, oxidation ? What is happening lol. The only thing I understand so far is aluminum dissolves in acids. What’s the in depth reaction ?
hello and thank you for this fabulous video. Is it possible to replace mercury (II) nitrate with mercury (II) chloride for amalgamation with aluminum? If so, does the quantity change? if yes in what quantity for the same proportion as in the video please? thank you in advance for your response
Okay for anyone that uses the aluminum amalgam and also can consistently get it to work I need a quick pointer. I have gotten the reaction to work but most often it completely fails. What type of aluminum are you using? I have tried using aluminum foil heavy duty and regular which the thin stuff actually seem to work better and I have tried using aluminum grains which seems to be a whole different type of amalgamation which I'm not sure how to carry out. If you do the greens the same as the foil they will never fully dissolve they just die out and stop reacting. But let's say you're just using foil easy enough what type of foil seems to be the best and the tricky part seems to be when to determine that the amalgam is ready I have seen things say when the hydrogen Evolution stops it's ready but I have also watched the aluminum dissolve to nothing waiting for the hydrogen to stop as a test. What happens if you use too much or too little mercury ii... there has to be a very simple way that works every time of when to tell the amalgam is ready some people say when it's not shiny but that's a pretty big window and does not lead to consistency. I have also seen the entire surface of the aluminum get very shiny and look like stuff was dancing all over it. That was a very excited reaction. Is it better to use a very tiny bit of Mercury or does it really even matter? For Simplicity and so it can be made quickly and fresh I take Mercury and add it to nitric acid concentrated just like on one of the videos on here to make the Mercury solution and instead of taking it down to a salt I just use it as is just like they do on their videos here so none of that should be an issue. What should we be looking for to know when the amalgam is ready and do you have any documentation that shows a picture or video of the moment to do it? Thanks
Okay for anyone that uses the aluminum amalgam and also can consistently get it to work I need a quick pointer. I have gotten the reaction to work but most often it completely fails. What type of aluminum are you using? I have tried using aluminum foil heavy duty and regular which the thin stuff actually seem to work better and I have tried using aluminum grains which seems to be a whole different type of amalgamation which I'm not sure how to carry out. If you do the greens the same as the foil they will never fully dissolve they just die out and stop reacting. But let's say you're just using foil easy enough what type of foil seems to be the best and the tricky part seems to be when to determine that the amalgam is ready I have seen things say when the hydrogen Evolution stops it's ready but I have also watched the aluminum dissolve to nothing waiting for the hydrogen to stop as a test. What happens if you use too much or too little mercury ii... there has to be a very simple way that works every time of when to tell the amalgam is ready some people say when it's not shiny but that's a pretty big window and does not lead to consistency. I have also seen the entire surface of the aluminum get very shiny and look like stuff was dancing all over it. That was a very excited reaction. Is it better to use a very tiny bit of Mercury or does it really even matter? For Simplicity and so it can be made quickly and fresh I take Mercury and add it to nitric acid concentrated just like on one of the videos on here to make the Mercury solution and instead of taking it down to a salt I just use it as is just like they do on their videos here so none of that should be an issue. What should we be looking for to know when the amalgam is ready and do you have any documentation that shows a picture or video of the moment to do it? Thanks
Thanks appreciate it... I have watched every single video on here and I just suck at making the amalgam... need help some how... but very familiar with the reaction... at least with p2np. I just need to learn how to create an effective amalgam. I have literally done this reaction upwards of 100 times easily maybe more because I am stubborn as hell and I just want to figure it out. Now I don't know how the volume of stuff changes as you scale up or scale down but in the p2np reduction they use 12 G of foil 10 G of p2np 10 mL of isopropanol per gram of substrate whatever the isopropanol is half that amount in water and without looking at it I believe the GAA is the same as the water the amount. So I'm not sure how that scales like let's say you want to do five grams of p2np does it work by cutting everything right in half? I am not sure. Every time I run the reaction the only ones that work are the ones where when you pour that p2np solution in the aluminum gets very excited very quickly. I'm sure it's the same for the meth one. Most of the time when I drain off the Mercury water and pour in the p2np nothing happens instantly but if I keep shaking it all of a sudden it will take off but for some reason I am left with an intermediate and it's definitely hydroxylamine because I can crash the amine out as a salt but there is really no activity if you tried to take any. So very close but so far away. Now the ones that the aluminum is ready to explode when you put the substrate in those typically work good and I can tell by the color of the solution when it separates from the aluminum in the end if it's good or not. If it's clear it's absolutely a dud and that goes all the way to a reddish orange color and those ones are the good ones. I would like to try different types of aluminum to try to get some consistency and not just waste a bunch of stuff all the time even though I always do smallish reactions because it's just for me anyway. I could pick up some thicker aluminum from any hardware store used as roof flashing but good quality aluminum but that's going to be thicker than aluminum foil so I am guessing would be enough information is going to be much different. How to tell when that's ready I have no idea. I also have a pound of aluminum grains sitting around but those suckers are so small I have no idea how to tell when the amalgam is ready. There has to be some kind of indication that someone on here knows to get consistency out of this reaction because it really is so simple and pretty damn cheap. I have plenty of mercury and nitric acid so I use the method that is on this website in a video where they take a couple grams of Mercury and they just toss it in like 20 ml of concentrated nitric acid so that is the solution I am using without dehydrating it down to a salt. That would be part of what the hell I need to do is how much of that solution maybe per gram of aluminum? And how can you tell when it's ready especially with using different types of aluminum foil grains or thicker aluminum sheet. Not super thick it's completely bendable but much thicker than foil. I am stubborn and it's driving me crazy help
