Sinteza amfetamina iz P2NP prek Al/Hg (video)

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V videoposnetku sinteze amfetamina se uporabljajo reagenti:
  • 10 g 1-fenil-2-nitropropena (P2NP);
  • 100 ml izopropil alkohola (IPA);
  • 50 ml ledene ocetne kisline (AcOH);
  • 50 g natrijevega hidroksida (NaOH);
  • 12 g aluminija (v obliki narezane gospodinjske folije);
  • 0,1 g nitrata živega srebra (II) (Hg(NO3)2);
  • 2 ml žveplove kisline (H2SO4);
  • 50 ml acetona;
  • Destilirana voda;
Oprema in steklovina:
  • Steklenica z ravnim dnom 2 L;
  • Stojalo za retorto in objemka za pritrditev aparata (neobvezno);
  • povratni hladilnik;
  • lijak;
  • filter s sitom (kuhinjski filter je primeren);
  • brizga ali Pasteurjeva pipeta;
  • papirčki z indikatorjempH;
  • čaše (600 ml x2, 2 L, 1 L, 100 ml x2);
  • Vakuumski vir;
  • laboratorijska tehtnica (primerna je od 0,1 do 200 g);
  • merilni valji 1000 mL in 100 mL;
  • hladna vodna kopel;
  • steklena palica in lopatka;
  • ločilni lij 1 L (neobvezno);
  • Laboratorijski termometer;
  • Buchnerjeva bučka in lij;
  • Filtrirni papir;

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Opis videoposnetka sinteze amfetamina.
Pred začetkom sinteze pripravimo raztopino 10 g 1-fenil-2-nitropropena v 100 ml izopropil alkohola in 50 ml ocetne kisline. Za pripravo aluminijevega amalgama se zdrobilnikom papirja na majhne koščke razreže tudi 12 g aluminijaste folije . Lahko se reže s škarjami ali raztrga z rokami (v rokavicah).

0:04-0:40 - Vodna raztopina alkalije za pripravo. Ta raztopina je bila pripravljena vnaprej, tako da ima raztopina do časa alkalizacije glavne reakcijske zmesi v tem videoposnetku sobno temperaturo. Alkalizacija poteka s spontanim segrevanjem. Če se uporabi sveža vroča alkalna raztopina, se temperatura dvigne višje in bo potrebno prisilno hlajenje reakcijske mase.

0:46-2:36 - Amalgam z živosrebrovim nitratom. Amalgamirani aluminij bo reduciral
1-fenil-2-nitropropen v amfetamin. Med reakcijo amalgamiranja se izloča majhna količina plina, nastane siva oborina. Pomembno je, da ne zamudite trenutka, ko je aluminijev amalgam pripravljen. Ta trenutek lahko določimo po nastajanju sive oborine in povečanem izločanju plina. To se zgodi v 10 do 15 minutah od začetka reakcije.

Voda se odcedi brez odstranitve gaze, amalgamirani aluminij se spere z dvema porcijama hladne destilirane vode. Pozorni moramo biti na sproščanje plinskih mehurčkov. Opazimo, da so mehurčki manjši in da je barva tekočine pri "pravilnem" amalgamu temnejša. Če je reakcija burna, mehurčki veliki, barva pa svetla, je amalgam "nepravilen". To je skoraj zagotovo posledica pomanjkanja živosrebrove soli. Upoštevajte, da so živosrebrove soli strupene.

2:37-4:28 - Najpomembnejši del postopka je redukcija 1-fenil-2-nitropropena z aluminijevim amalgamom. Reakcija je eksotermna in poteka z izdatnim sproščanjem toplote. Med postopkom je treba skrbno nadzorovati temperaturo. Reakcijsko bučko v primeru pregrevanja hladimo v ledeni kopeli. V erlenmajerico je dovoljeno dodajati hladno vodo. Včasih se reakcija ne začne, zato je treba reakcijsko maso temeljito segreti in reakcija se začne (s pravilno pripravljenim amalgamom). Med reakcijo se sproščata vonj po vrelem alkoholu in ocetni kislini.
Za zajemanje hlapov se uporablja povratni hladilnik Allihn. Učinkovitost povratnega hladilnika Allihn lahko povečamo s tekočo hladno vodo, ki jo lahko priključimo nanj.

5:04 - Reakcijsko bučko lahko speremo z majhno količino alkohola in z njo speremo tudi neredagirani aluminij, da zberemo ostanke in povečamo izkoristek.

5:13 - Neredagiranega aluminija mora ostati malo. Po ostankih lahko določite količino reagiranega 1-fenil-2-nitropropena.

5:16-6:13 - Alkalizacija. Reakcija poteka s sproščanjem toplote. Ostanki nereduciranega aluminija bodo dodatno reagirali z alkalijo in zmes segreli ter ustvarili stranske produkte.
V 30 minutah po alkalinizaciji pride do ločitve v vidne plasti.
pH zgornje plasti mora biti 11-12.

6:18-7:23 -
Dekantiranje. Zgornjo plast z amfetaminsko bazo zberemo v alkoholu. Lahko jo posušimo z majhno količino brezvodnega magnezijevega sulfata. Žlindro lahko ekstrahiramo z nepolarnim topilom (eter, benzen, toluen), nato topilo izpareva.

7:24-8:50 - Priprava raztopine žveplove kisline v acetonu. Ta raztopina je potrebna za nemoteno kisanje. Če uporabimo koncentrirano žveplovo kislino, pride do lokalnega prekisanja izdelka. Zato se izkoristek zmanjša.

8:51-10:53 - Zakisanje produkta in pridobivanje amfetamin sulfata. Zgornji rumeni plasti, ki je bila zbrana v prejšnji fazi, se po kapljicah doda pripravljena raztopina žveplove kisline. Z vsako kapljico raztopine kisline se tvorijo kosmiči soli. Ta faza je zelo pomembna, saj je treba skrbno nadzorovati pH, da ne pride do prevelikega zakisanja. S kisanjem nadaljujemo do
pH 5,5-6. Preveč zakisan izdelek je rožnate barve. V primeru popolnega prekisanja se izdelek pokvari.

10:55-11:38 -
Filtriranje amfetamin sulfata iz topil v Buchnerjevem liju v vakuumu. Na tej stopnji lahko izdelek dodatno speremo s hladnim acetonom tako, da ga prelijemo skozi Buchnerjev lijak skupaj s pogačo amfetamin sulfata.

11:41-12:28 - Filtriranje z uporabo improviziranih orodij. Kot filter se lahko uporabi katerakoli debela tkanina. Dobljeni izdelek se nekaj ur suši na toplem in suhem mestu, da se odstranijo ostanki topil. Priporoča se shranjevanje v vakuumski embalaži.

Izkoristek je 60-70 %.
 
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8:51 - what's the shelf life of the clear oil after it's been separated?
 

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Lahko vam pomagam pri sintezi, v zasebnih sporočilih mi lahko zastavite katero koli vprašanje o.
 

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Pozdravljeni, gospod G Patton , po tem, ko se aluminij združi z živim srebrom,
je rečeno, da moramo izdelati: P2np + IPa + ledeno ocetno kislino .


Ali lahko ocetno kislino nadomestimo s citronsko kislino?
V kakšni količini?
 

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The usual replacement is formic acid, if it’s so easier. You can buy food vinegar the same way.
 

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Pozdravljeni in zahvaljujemo se vam za ta čudoviti videoposnetek. Ali je mogoče živosrebrov (II) nitrat nadomestiti z živosrebrovim (II) kloridom za amalgamacijo z aluminijem? Če da, ali se količina spremeni? če da, v kakšni količini za enak delež kot v videoposnetku, prosim? vnaprej se zahvaljujem za vaš odgovor.
 

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Yes, it's said above and every post about amalgam production. Same molar ration, you need to recount quantity in grams.
 

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Ali bi bilo pri proizvodnji večjih količin izdelka smiselno namesto IPA (82 °C) uporabiti topila, kot sta DMSO (vrelišče: 189 °C) ali toluen (110 °C), in v reaktor namestiti koščke razbitega porcelana za stabilizacijo reakcije?
 

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The reaction is too violate and exothermic. It think, it have no sense.
 

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DMSO at high temperature and the presence of acid will begin to degrade on DMS and release oxygen as an oxidizing agent. We have a strong release of hydrogen, which in the aggregate can give "explosive gas". Gently with experiments! In addition, DMSO itself is very smelly with high-temperature synthesis in the presence of many components. Try ethylacetate.
 

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Prosimo, da v videoposnetku prikažete 12 gramov aluminija v erlenmajerico s prostornino 2000 ml.
Toda želel sem, da bi šlo 24 gramov aluminijevega peska v 2000 ml bučko
Prosim, povejte mi, kakšno je razmerje za vse količine drugih sestavin.

Ali je to 2-krat več IPA? Ledeno ocetno kislino? žveplova kislina? H2o ? kavstična soda ? In kaj je z
času reakcije ? Ali se čas reakcije tudi podvoji? Kaj pa dekantiranje, če podvojimo količino za isto steklovino?
(Priložena je slika 24 gramov aluminija v dvolitrski erlenmajerici.)
Prosim, odzovite se, potrebujete pomoč za začetek.
 

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Pozdravljeni, potrebujete večjo bučko. Vse skupaj pomnožite dvakrat. Čas je približno enak.

Najprej začnite z manjšo količino.
 
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Mister Patton , can I replace IPA by ethanol , to dissolve P2np for the main reaction into the synthesis '

How much is equivalent of Ethanol to replace 100 ml of IPA for this synthesis
 

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Da, lahko. Enako, mislim. Raztopiti morate al P2NP.
 

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Uporabite lahko različna topila, sintetizirali smo celo v etil acetatu (brez ocetne kisline in alkohola). Mislim, da je ta pomanjkljivost rešena v procesu hidrolize pri segrevanju v reakcijski zmesi.
 

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V 10-litrski erlenmajerici je bolje, da ne sintetiziramo več kot 80 g p2np. Za 2L erlenmajerico sta podobni - bolje je, da ne sintetiziramo več kot 15g in ob prisotnosti izkušenj. Z izkušnjami lahko bolje nadzorujete reakcijo, vendar bo zgoraj navedena količina predstavljala veliko tveganje.
 

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Kakšen je natančen postopek izdelave raztopine P2NP+IPA+GAA? Ali je to samo mešanje ustrezne količine vsake spojine v čaši, rahlo mešanje in nato ohlajanje? Ne vem, zakaj je bil ta del v videoposnetku izpuščen.
 

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yes, exactly.
 

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When it has cooled by part of the P2NP can crystallize again. You can add this precipitate to the flask without dissolution or wash off an additional amount of IPA.
 

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or just warming up the entire solution a bit before pouring into the aluminium amalgam?
 

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8:51 - what's the shelf life of the clear oil after it's been separated?
 

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most medication has shelf life 1 year,not that it doesnt work after just that it is recomended to use it before
 

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Hello!!

I am new to all this and would liek to give this a try and learn more

Do I need a fume hood for this?

I will have a respirator and nice gloves, is there anything else I need to watch out for?

Thank you
 

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The main thing is to have time to cool the reaction while this does not get out of a flask with a volcanic effect. Evaporation that you can get the main IPA is not so critical.
 

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Thank you< so I probably don't need a fume hood for this
 

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depends on quantity of production,mostly just fumes, no open flames, dont ingest the poisonous chemicals.dont order chemicals from out of the country,they will get taken and maybe feds show up, dont talk to cops without a lawyer and dont let anyone in ur house unless they kick in the door with a warrant
 

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so i have an oily residue product,what is a good way to crystalize it?
 

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You need to use a solution of acid (phosphoric or sulfuric) in IPA. This is shown and explained in detail in the video available on the forum.
 

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After that.just takes forever to dry. So recrystalize with ethanol or xylene is what im thinkn
 

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Thank you for the previous responses.

The chemist has carried out their first (successful?) reaction and, as a result, has further questions.

The test subject, who evaluated the final product, compared it to the one commonly available on the street (according to police reports found online, its purity is usually around 10-20%).

I’d like to know whether the test subject had overly high expectations of the product, or if the inexperienced chemist might have made several mistakes during the process?

What can realistically be expected from the final product, and could further experiments significantly improve its quality?

The errors that, according to the chemist, may have affected the final product include:

• Completely skipping extraction with DCM (the chemist was prepared for it but lacked sufficient theoretical knowledge).

• Drying the product for too short a time and at too high a temperature.

Could this affect the product’s quality?

Does extraction with DCM involve adding DCM to the free base and collecting the appropriate layer? If so, are the layers clearly distinguishable, and which one (top/bottom) contains the product?

Could @G.Patton @William D. provide their input on this?
Thank you!
 

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Hello.
It is quite subjective, has he checked its melting point? Isomer ratio also play role in the product activity. In addition, there is direct dependence between its purity and potency.

It's hard to estimate its quality in accordance with your description. You should check its purity in laboratory (such as EnergyControl or so) and then try to find a problem. Is your product absolutely white?

this step is quite important in order to increase the reaction yield and get rid of Hg salts in final product.

It also can influence on the product quality in case of air exposure during its strong heating.

Yes, he has to add DCM to the reaction mixture stir it well and then separate layers. DCM layer is clearly be determinated by its transparency and smell.

By the way, will you sell your product here?
 

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Thank you!


No measurements were made, and the product was not 100% pure.


After adding the sodium hydroxide solution to the mixture, an oily layer separated after some time. So, should DCM be added to it after separation, or already at the stage of adding sodium hydroxide? I’m an amateur with a new hobby :) As you can see, I still have a lot to learn. I’ll follow the instructions and keep you updated on the progress. Any sale at this point is out of the question.
 

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>So, should DCM be added to it after separation, or already at the stage of adding sodium hydroxide?

It has to be added after NaOH aq sln addition and 5-10min stirring in order to let it reacts.
 
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