Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

[Diva]

Thanks for this video
I want to know if P2NP is available and he didn't mention use of it in the video
Thanks

 

[KokosDreams]

Thanks for this video
I want to know if P2NP is available and he didn't mention use of it in the video
Thanks

Diva
There is a list of P2NP Vendors in the listing section of this Forum

Stay safe

 

[Diva]

There is a list of P2NP Vendors in the listing section of this Forum

Stay safe

KokosDreamsThanks alot
Pls send me a link or tell how can find it
and in the previous video he didn't mention how he use it in the preparation

 

[KokosDreams]

Thanks alot
Pls send me a link or tell how can find it
and in the previous video he didn't mention how he use it in the preparation

Diva
What do you mean exactly, how it was used in the preperation?

You can see the supplier list here: http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/resources/

 

[Diva]

Yes exactly that's what I want

 

[KokosDreams]

Yes exactly that's what I want

Diva
You'll create a solution of P2NP, Isopropyl Alcohol and Acetic Acid (10 g of 1-phenyl-2-nitropropene in 100 ml of isopropyl alcohol and 50 ml of acetic acid).

It is a basic mixture of the 3 above described precursors, simply mix them together!

Do you got any more questions?

Some please correct me if I'm wrong!

Cincerly,

Koko

 

[KokosDreams]

Max quantity what I know was 2,5 kg P2NP per this reaction, but need good control for temperature. Gradual scaling of the reaction - the best choice. With any problems with scaling, it is better to solve them on smaller quantities. We can help on this path, with feedback.

William Dampier
Hey there, can you remember how much amphetamine freebase was yielded from this reaction?

 

[Diva]

You'll create a solution of P2NP, Isopropyl Alcohol and Acetic Acid (10 g of 1-phenyl-2-nitropropene in 100 ml of isopropyl alcohol and 50 ml of acetic acid).

It is a basic mixture of the 3 above described precursors, simply mix them together!

Do you got any more questions?

Some please correct me if I'm wrong!

Cincerly,

Koko

KokosDreamsReally thanks

 

[KokosDreams]

Really thanks

Diva
You are welcome!

Stay safe

 

[obwiju]

Hello. We would like to get feedback from you about this supplier. Please, share us result of your deal.

G.PattonAfter some research I have ordered 100 gr of mercuric chloride. When I receive it I will share impressions

 

[KokosDreams]

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Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

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• May 27, 2022
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https://bbgate.com/threads/synthesis-of-amphetamine-from-p2np-via-al-hg-video.196/

HIGGS BOSSON
I got some questions:

1. How can I clean the base solution from Isopropyl and other unwated byproducts so that I receive a pure amphetamine freebase?
I am looking into this synthesis to produce amphetamine freebase, not sulphate and am wondering if it is necessary to clean the spereated top layer to make it ready as pure amphetamine freebase.

2. What type of exhaust system is recommended for this reaction in a home lab?
I was reading in the thread that describes exhaust systems but am looking to find less space consuming options

3. What is the estimated yield of pure amphetamine freebase from this reaction (10g P2NP)?
I'd estimate it to be somewhat around 50ml, if the Isopropyl is fully removed from the base that's seperated

@HIGGS BOSSON
@G.Patton
@William Dampier

 

[G.Patton]

1. How can I clean the base solution from Isopropyl and other unwated byproducts so that I receive a pure amphetamine freebase?
I am looking into this synthesis to produce amphetamine freebase, not sulphate and am wondering if it is necessary to clean the spereated top layer to make it ready as pure amphetamine freebase.

KokosDreamsEvaporate solvent and you can carry out steam distillation to purify free base.

2. What type of exhaust system is recommended for this reaction in a home lab?
I was reading in the thread that describes exhaust systems but am looking to find less space consuming options

There are nice guides.

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/home-laboratory-diy-exhausting-fan-models-and-filters.471/

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/setting-up-a-laboratory-in-the-house.586/

3. What is the estimated yield of pure amphetamine freebase from this reaction (10g P2NP)?
I'd estimate it to be somewhat around 50ml, if the Isopropyl is fully removed from the base that's seperated

Depends on your skill, 70-90%. From 6.19 to 8 mL of amph free base. I don't know how did you calculated 50 mL

 

[KokosDreams]

Evaporate solvent and you can carry out steam distillation to purify free base.

G.Patton
Thanks!

There are nice guides.

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/home-laboratory-diy-exhausting-fan-models-and-filters.471/

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/setting-up-a-laboratory-in-the-house.586/

Thanks!

Depends on your skill, 70-90%. From 6.19 to 8 mL of amph free base. I don't know how did you calculated 50 mL

Okay, that's a surprise!
According to my sourcing costs the cost for 1.000ml of freebase should then be between 379,36€ and 546,64€, according to my research that seems a little high.
Is there a method than can reduce the production costs?

I am wondering as I am looking into the manufacturing of freebase for commercial use of freebase, so I am having the trouble to scale this reaction towards something like 2.5kg P2NP or even higher otherwise it wouldn't make much sense
What other reactions could you recommend for commercial use? I can't do this reaction 140 times to get 1L haha

 

[G.Patton]

According to my sourcing costs the cost for 1.000ml of freebase should then be between 379,36€ and 546,64€, according to my research that seems a little high.
Is there a method than can reduce the production costs?

KokosDreamsI know that 1g of pure amph sulfate has aproximately cost from 20 to 30 eur. You can get ~1450g of sulphate salt from 1L of base. 546 eur looks not so bad. You have to carry out synthesis. If you have no experience, it is hard to calculate and build global plans.

I am wondering as I am looking into the manufacturing of freebase for commercial use of freebase, so I am having the trouble to scale this reaction towards something like 2.5kg P2NP otherwise it wouldn't make much sense
What other reactions could you recommend for commercial use? I can't do this reaction 140 times to get 1L haha

One-pot synthesis of amphetamine from P2NP with NaBH4/CuCl2 (1kg scale)

 

[studentt]

what is the color from amphetamine oil before steam destillation (red/brown)?

 

[KokosDreams]

I know that 1g of pure amph sulfate has aproximately cost from 20 to 30 eur. You can get ~1450g of sulphate salt from 1L of base. 546 eur looks not so bad. You have to carry out synthesis. If you have no experience, it is hard to calculate and build global plans.

G.Patton
I just want to find the most efficient (time and money) method to be able to know what to focus on.

20 - 30 EUR sounds like a dream haha, where I'm from we sell a kilo of Speed for 800€ - 1.000€

One-pot synthesis of amphetamine from P2NP with NaBH4/CuCl2 (1kg scale)

Thanks, I've read into that already but it seems very costy, as far as I understood this method has around 2.5x the price of the Synthesis via Al/Hg & P2NP

 

[G.Patton]

20 - 30 EUR sounds like a dream haha, where I'm from we sell a kilo of Speed for 800€ - 1.000€

KokosDreamsIs this speed pure? Or is it cut garbage?

 

[KokosDreams]

Is this speed pure? Or is it cut garbage?

G.Patton
Basically for both..the people don't really care if there's coffeine cut into it or not..which is sad

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

what is the color from amphetamine oil before steam destillation (red/brown)?

studenttDeff. not red/brown.Red brown organic layer means overheating if the coloration appeared before basification, if it's after it's your p2np and other side products moving with the ipa to the organic layer because of uncomplete reaction (in this case it should be yellowish brown, not so intense redish brown)

 

[KokosDreams]

Is there anyone that has experience with scaling this reaction to 2.5kg+ P2NP who would be willing to answer some questions?