Amphetamine synthesis from P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

[the money]

welcome everybody
I want to share with you my experiences, I tried to cook amphetamine
, I failed in the first experiment
and I failed in the second experiment
, but I succeeded in the third experiment

My third experience was like this

I added 12 grams of aluminum in a 3 liter beaker and added to it 4 ml of mercury nitrate and one liter of distilled water and left it to react for ten minutes
, after which I removed the contaminated water,
then cleaned it with two parts of water
....
Next, I added a solution of isopropyl alcohol, acetic acid, and p2np,
and after that the temperature went up,
I cooled it down a bit and left it to react for about 30 minutes

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Then I dumped it into a container and added a sodium hydroxide solution to 11 ph

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After that, amphetamine oil was extracted

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Then add acetone with sulfuric acid to drip amphetamine oil to pH 6

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8 grams of amphetamine were obtained

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Special thanks to teacher
G.patton
for helping me

 

[InLikeFlynn]

welcome everybody
I want to share with you my experiences, I tried to cook amphetamine
, I failed in the first experiment
and I failed in the second experiment
, but I succeeded in the third experiment

My third experience was like this

I added 12 grams of aluminum in a 3 liter beaker and added to it 4 ml of mercury nitrate and one liter of distilled water and left it to react for ten minutes
, after which I removed the contaminated water,
then cleaned it with two parts of water
....
Next, I added a solution of isopropyl alcohol, acetic acid, and p2np,
and after that the temperature went up,
I cooled it down a bit and left it to react for about 30 minutes

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Then I dumped it into a container and added a sodium hydroxide solution to 11 ph
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After that, amphetamine oil was extracted

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Then add acetone with sulfuric acid to drip amphetamine oil to pH 6

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8 grams of amphetamine were obtained

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Special thanks to teacher
G.patton
for helping me

ForyouWhat did you do different from the 1st and 2nd attempts to gave success on the 3rd attempt?

 

[MrMarvin]

Hello Guys.
Im only able to get 14,9% sulphuric acid in my country.
Is it possible to use it?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Hello Guys.
Im only able to get 14,9% sulphuric acid in my country.
Is it possible to use it?

MrMarvinNo, but you can boil off the water

 

[MrMarvin]

Yes, sulphuric acid dosen’t need to come over, youre just trying to lose the water

UWe9o12jkied91dOkay, thanks.
Do you know how I can check the temperature reliable?

 

[FredDurst]

Okay, thanks.
Do you know how I can check the temperature reliable?

MrMarvinHi MrMarvin, how did you get on with concentrating the sulphuric acid solution?

I have the same problem

 

[enzym]

Can i use rounded flask instead of flattend bottom flask ?
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Grt.

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Can i use rounded flask instead of flattend bottom flask ?
( info about this suspicious new account: deleted my prev. account to this, due to privacy )
Grt.

enzymYes

 

[enzym]

so 10gram of p2np would give 7 grams of end product ? ( if yield is 70).
or howmuch would the outcome be in grams ?
still cant figger it out how to calculate yield

 

[w2x3f5]

so 10gram of p2np would give 7 grams of end product ? ( if yield is 70).
or howmuch would the outcome be in grams ?
still cant figger it out how to calculate yield

enzymyou need to calculate the mass of the substance in the amount of the substance, divide by the molar mass and get the pier, so you do for p2np and the final amine salt. divide the mole of the amine salt by the mole of p2np and multiply by 100 percent to get the yield as a percentage of theory
10/163.17=0.0613 mol*70/100=0.0429 mol amine salt
if you do (amine)2*H2SO4=0.0429*(135*2+98)/2=7.9 gr amine salt

 

[enzym]

can mercury replaced by some other element/chemical ?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

can mercury replaced by some other element/chemical ?

enzymNo, some say gallium but I will belive it when I see it

 

[enzym]

If i replace the mercury acetate to the chlorate. Howmuch do i need then?
( mercury chlorate is easier to get for me)

 

[Xiaoyan]

Hello, Once I get the oil how can i remove all the water and alcohol??
Thanks

 

[Andreas20x]

Hey guys,

I have an idea for a 1kg synthesis and wanted to hear your opinions on it.

Build a 60L HDPE drum with agitator motor. For reaction cooling, frozen glass marbles (14-20mm) are gradually added by hand to maintain the perfect temperature. as a reflux cooler a 2 meter long 100mm (or thicker?) PE tube, also completely filled with frozen glass marbles (25-35mm)

 

[schwabbi]

Hey guys,

I have an idea for a 1kg synthesis and wanted to hear your opinions on it.

Build a 60L HDPE drum with agitator motor. For reaction cooling, frozen glass marbles (14-20mm) are gradually added by hand to maintain the perfect temperature. as a reflux cooler a 2 meter long 100mm (or thicker?) PE tube, also completely filled with frozen glass marbles (25-35mm)

Andreas20xi wouldnt do that man. u will end up in a really really bad shower of reactants i think. 150grams in a 20L RBF can already shoot out the roof like a fuckin vulcano

 

[TonyTheTiger]

For scaling up X2.
can H2o for emulation amalgam and GAA be the same ? ( 50ml H20 and 50ml GAA)
ALso need alki solution X2 ? ( can it not be done with 50 Noah and 100ml H20)?
Greetings.

 

[alterego]

What are the volumes if u want to change stinky GAA to water?
I have read @G.Patton post ( dexamf...) , but the only referendum is "water is used instead of GAA to get hydrogen production started)
what would be the amounts of water with the "standard volumes" refered here (10g p2np, 50mg GAA,100mlPA...)
cheers

edit: i have read every post in this topic here, but nobody gives an amount.

 

[G.Patton]

What are the volumes if u want to change stinky GAA to water?
I have read @G.Patton post ( dexamf...) , but the only referendum is "water is used instead of GAA to get hydrogen production started)
what would be the amounts of water with the "standard volumes" refered here (10g p2np, 50mg GAA,100mlPA...)
cheers

edit: i have read every post in this topic here, but nobody gives an amount.

alteregoHi. If you read my topic about d-amph, what is a problem calculate it proportionatelly? Synthesis way is the same.

 

[proto311]

Hello guys, what will happen if the final pH of the sulfate is over 6? the mix was already white and thick like icecream so I didn't keep droping acid because I was afraid of over acidification. Will alkaline pH affect potency? Thanks

 

[alterego]

Hello guys, what will happen if the final pH of the sulfate is over 6? the mix was already white and thick like icecream so I didn't keep droping acid because I was afraid of over acidification. Will alkaline pH affect potency? Thanks

proto311just add more solvent. ( wont affect the ph level and the " icecream" become more liquid/ thinner.)

 

[G.Patton]

Hello guys, what will happen if the final pH of the sulfate is over 6? the mix was already white and thick like icecream so I didn't keep droping acid because I was afraid of over acidification. Will alkaline pH affect potency? Thanks

proto311pH 6 is enough. It is not alkaline pH, it is a slightly acidic pH.

 

[deto8810]

Just to make sure since Im super new to all of this, the first video(and the following description) is the recipe to make speed/pep/amphetamine, not "meth"amphetamine. Can anyone correct me on that?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Just to make sure since Im super new to all of this, the first video(and the following description) is the recipe to make speed/pep/amphetamine, not "meth"amphetamine. Can anyone correct me on that?

deto8810Yes, I don't think there is a way to go from P2NP to methamphetamine in 1 step.But after obtaining the desired oil from this reaction you can perform solvent extraction and whatnot to isolate it followed by another identical Al/Hg reaction this time forming the imine between amphetamine and formaldehyde that will be reduced to the target secondary amine.There exists also the option to make Phenylacetone from P2NP, there is video method posted, for this route methylamine and phenylacetone will form an intermediary that is then reduced with either Al/Hg, NaBH4 etc.

 

[deto8810]

Yes, I don't think there is a way to go from P2NP to methamphetamine in 1 step.But after obtaining the desired oil from this reaction you can perform solvent extraction and whatnot to isolate it followed by another identical Al/Hg reaction this time forming the imine between amphetamine and formaldehyde that will be reduced to the target secondary amine.There exists also the option to make Phenylacetone from P2NP, there is video method posted, for this route methylamine and phenylacetone will form an intermediary that is then reduced with either Al/Hg, NaBH4 etc.

UWe9o12jkied91dGood to know, the second video is how to make "Alphamethylphenethylamine", so I was confused if the video description is actually how to make meth via Al/Hg. Thanks for the quick answer and sorry for the newbie question ^^