Methamphetamine from ephedrine tablets

[G.Patton]

hello sorry i want to ask about meth from hi.some. a while ago I made meth with pseudoephedrine 10 gr ,HI 10ml. , 20 ml of water. without using red phosphorus, I refluxed for 6 hours at 100 c. and after that I alkalined and extracted with toluene, and I got only less than 0.5 gr. with a very foul and unpleasant smell, I used pseudoephedrine which contains 60mg pseudoephedrine
tripolidine 2.5 mg. I hope someone can answer my complaint, which until now I'm still confused. Can anyone answer it in detail, I will thank you very much for those who want to answer it.

YusufHello, what is a question do you want to ask?

 

[Mr.Blanks00]

how to get rid of the triprolidine content in pseudoephedrine pills, and is it possible to make meth with only Hi without red phosphorus, because I can't get red phosphorus.

 

[G.Patton]

how to get rid of the triprolidine content in pseudoephedrine pills,

YusufHello, sorry for a long reply. Ephedrine extraction from pills methods can be used for this goal.

s it possible to make meth with only Hi without red phosphorus, be

You can use Hypophosphorous route.

 

[Mr.Blanks00]

Ok thank you very much sir.

 

[mithyl2]

can you use xylene in place of toluene?

 

[Jordan Belfort]

can you use xylene in place of toluene?

mithyl2Yes, but you cannot bubble HCL gas through it. It will reduce the xylene to a different compound (found out the expensive way earlier)

 

[G.Patton]

can you use xylene in place of toluene?

mithyl2Hi, I think yes. They have rather similar properties.

 

[mithyl2]

Hi, I think yes. They have rather similar properties.

G.Patton
hi again, what is the best way to make hypophosphorous acid?

 

[G.Patton]

hi again, what is the best way to make hypophosphorous acid?

mithyl2Buy it.

 

[mithyl2]

is there an exact amount of sodium thiosulfate that should be used for the Hypophosphorous route?

 

[mithyl2]

what final % yield of meth should there be per gram of Pseudoephedrine for the Hypophosphorous routes?

and can i use ephedrine in place of Pseudoephedrine for the Hypophosphorous route?

 

[triwps369]

Can you instead of bubbling HCL gas ,just add sulfuric acid until Ph 6? And have it as methamphetamine sulfate.

 

[G.Patton]

Can you instead of bubbling HCL gas ,just add sulfuric acid until Ph 6? And have it as methamphetamine sulfate.

triwps369Yes, you can.

and can i use ephedrine in place of Pseudoephedrine for the Hypophosphorous route?

Yes

 

[Us3rn4m3]

Would Advil Cold work? It says it has 200mg ibuprofen and 30mg pseudoephedrine hydrochloride and the inactive ingredients are: Acetylated monoglycerides, carnauba wax, colloidal silicon dioxide, corn starch, croscarmellose sodium, methylparaben, microcrystalline cellulose, pharmaceutical glaze, pharmaceutical ink, povidone, pregelatinized starch, propylparaben, sodium benzoate, sodium lauryl sulfate, stearic acid, sucrose, synthetic iron oxides, titanium dioxide.

 

[Us3rn4m3]

Would Advil Cold work? It says it has 200mg ibuprofen and 30mg pseudoephedrine hydrochloride and the inactive ingredients are: Acetylated monoglycerides, carnauba wax, colloidal silicon dioxide, corn starch, croscarmellose sodium, methylparaben, microcrystalline cellulose, pharmaceutical glaze, pharmaceutical ink, povidone, pregelatinized starch, propylparaben, sodium benzoate, sodium lauryl sulfate, stearic acid, sucrose, synthetic iron oxides, titanium dioxide.

Us3rn4m3OK I was looking at the wrong page, it would be nurofen cold and flu, it still has 200mg ibuprofen and 30mg pseudoephedrine hydrochloride, but the inactive ingredients are:

cellulose
microcrystalline,
calcium phosphate,
croscarmellose sodium,
hypromellose,
magnesium stearate,
mastercoat yellow FA 0156 or opaspray Yellow MI-IF-6168,
povidone,
talc-purified and
opacode monogramming ink S-1-277001 BLACK'

 

[Us3rn4m3]

Also, would deionized water be better? Or just redistilled water?

 

[diogenes]

Hi, I have found the final HCl step very difficult to do as it is very easy to overacidify the ephedrine base, then it takes a long time to dry and probably some Eph HCl is also lost during drying. I have been thinking of using sulphuric acid instead, creating Ephedrine Sulphate, the question is whether this could be used in the I2/RP route later on, or would the sulphate ion do some trouble (e.g. react with some of the ingredients, inhibit the reaction etc.) during the reduction? Hopefully one of the experts can answer this question. I know that bubbling dry HCl would also be an option, but this is also somewhat difficult for a novice.

 

[robertlouis]

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Extraction of pseudoephedrine from pharmaceutical (Sudafed) tablets.
Pseudoephedrine was extracted from Sudafed tablets using ethanol, ethanol/methanol (90:10% vol/vol) and methylated spirits. The solvents were chosen with reference to the relevant clandestine literature. For each extraction, one Sudafed tablet was crushed using a mortar and pestle and placed in a beaker. The iron oxide coating was removed by repetitive washing with acetone (10 mL in total) until all of the red colour had disappeared. The acetone was removed by filtration and the residue was allowed to dry. The extracting solvent (15 mL) was added to the beaker, which was then covered with aluminum foil and the sample shaken using mechanical agitation for 15 min. The sample was left to settle for one hour at room temperature, and then filtered using gravity filtration. The solvent was evaporated, and the resultant solid collected.
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Iodine from iodine tinctures.
Iodine tincture (7 mL, 2.5%) and distilled water (7 mL) were combined together and mixed with swirling. Concentrated hydrochloric acid (1 mL) was added dropwise with swirling, followed by hydrogen peroxide (7 mL, 6 % 20 vols). The mixture was poured into a beaker containing distilled water (50 mL) and left to stand for 20 min. The mixture was subsequently filtered using gravity filtration to reveal the iodine crystals.

Extraction of red phosphorous from matchboxes.
Matchbook strikers were cut off from locally purchased KTWO safety matchboxes and soaked in acetone (10 mL). After 30 min, the red phosphorous was scrapped from the strikers, and the paper discarded. The extracted red phosphorous was washed with distilled water and left to dry to a constant weight. The dry red phosphorous was placed in a beaker, and sodium hydroxide solution (20% wt/vol, 20 mL) was added. This solution was placed on a low heat for 2 h. The final product was filtered, washed with distilled water and left to dry to a constant weight.

Synthesis of methylamphetamine using the Moscow and Hypophosphorous routes.
Six batches of methylamphetamine hydrochloride were prepared using each synthetic route for laboratory grade pseudoephedrine and pseudoephedrine extracted from Sudafed tablets as previously described. In the case of the extracted precursor samples, the essential chemicals (iodine and phosphorous), used in the synthesis, were also extracted from tinctures and matchboxes. Twenty-four batches of methylamphetamine hydrochloride were prepared using each route, providing 48 batches in total.​

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[1] Moscow route:
Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (2.0 g) was mixed in a round bottom flask (100 mL) together with red phosphorous (0.6 g), iodine (4.0 g) and distilled water (2 mL) and a condenser attached. The mixture was refluxed for 24 h and then allowed to cool. Once cool, the mixture was diluted with an equal volume of water and the red phosphorus filtered out. A few grams of sodium thiosulfate were placed into a beaker, and sodium hydroxide solution (25% wt/vol, 8 mL) added to basify the solution. This was then added to the filtered reaction mixture, and swirled to reveal methylamphetamine free base
As an oil, which floated to the top of the aqueous solution. Toluene (20 mL) was added to extract the methylamphetamine free base. The toluene extract was clear to pale yellow. Anhydrous hydrogen chloride gas was bubbled through to reveal a white precipitate, which was washed with toluene. The solid was dried under high vacuum.

[2] Hypophosphorous route:
Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (2.0 g) was placed into a round bottom flask (100 mL) and mixed with iodine (4.0 g) and hypophosphorous acid (3.6 mL) and a condenser attached. The mixture was refluxed for 8 h, then allowed to cool. Once cool, the mixture was diluted with an equal volume of water. A few grams of sodium thiosulfate were placed into a beaker, and 25 % sodium hydroxide solution (24 mL) was added to extract the methylamphetamine free base. Extraction and precipitation of the salt was as previously described.​

William DampierHi Expert i wanna ask in 1 & 2 route temperature refluxe.
1. how much the temperature range can i stand in 24h reflux n 8h?
2. how much temperature range u mean in low heat ?

Thank's Expert

 

[G.Patton]

Hi Expert i wanna ask in 1 & 2 route temperature refluxe.
1. how much the temperature range can i stand in 24h reflux n 8h?
2. how much temperature range u mean in low heat ?

robertlouisThe lowest temperature, which is needed to boil the reaction mixture.

 

[Jordan Belfort]

The lowest temperature, which is needed to boil the reaction mixture.

G.PattonCan I do the moscow route also with ultra-sound bath without causing a explosion (to increase reaction rate and stirring) ?

 

[G.Patton]

Hydrogen is being generated, but I am not afraid of hydrogen itself I use ultrasound with a grignard and nitromethane/methanol aezotrope (image if it catches then fire).

But it am afraid if the red phosphorus itself.

Jordan BelfortHow ultrasound can cause an ignition?

 

[Jordan Belfort]

How ultrasound can cause an ignition?

G.PattonCreates local hotspots, thats how it's red phosphorus but I will try small

 

[robertlouis]

The lowest temperature, which is needed to boil the reaction mixture.

G.PattonThanks Expert

 

[Mr.Blanks00]

hello, sir, sorry, I want to ask whether the final product of this method is also DL racemic methamphetamine or not, please explain.