Methamphetamine from ephedrine tablets

[G.Patton]

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Ingredients below.

Ephedrine 30mg
Caffeine 200mg
Aspirin 30mg

1. How can I remove Aspirin out of this using the most simplest of the methods ?
(Aspirin is not water soluble but ephedrine is soluble ? Can I take that route ? Grind pills add to water then gravity filter (Aspirin remains on the filter) I get the Epherdrine + Caffeine + Water)
Hmm how do I remove the solubles (Ephedrine + Caffeine) from the water ?

2. How can I extract only ephedrine out of the tablets using the most simplest of the methods, if any ?

Thanks in Advance

ifreezeuAspirin 10 g/100 ml ethyl ether
Caffeine 0.2 g/100 ml ethyl ether
Ephedrine insoluble in ether
Use anhydrous ether!

 

[Joeking]

Aspirin 10 g/100 ml ethyl ether
Caffeine 0.2 g/100 ml ethyl ether
Ephedrine insoluble in ether
Use anhydrous ether!

G.PattonHi legend, I can't for the life of me figure out how to seperate the ephedrine from the caffeine as they are both insoluble in ethyl ether, do you have any idea, TIA.

 

[G.Patton]

Hi legend, I can't for the life of me figure out how to seperate the ephedrine from the caffeine as they are both insoluble in ethyl ether, do you have any idea, TIA.

JoekingLearn this

 

[G.Patton]

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YusufHello, yes, it is

 

[robertlouis]

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robertlouisHii , Patron i have trouble when exracting 200 tablet contains 26g Theophyline & 2.5 g Ephedrine HCL, finally i got less crystal when bubbling hcl gas.
I want a consultation, Thank u Master.

what i do is
1. add tablet powder to toluene solvent, stir 20min and evaporate.
2. add 2 gram NaOH solution to powder with 96% Isopropyle Alcohol Solvent to powder and evaporate.
3. add powder to beaker. add 4gram NaOH solution, until heatdown than add Petroleum Ether 90-120° C, stir with magnetic stir.
4. add solvent to coffe filter
5. the solvent Bubble with HCL Gas, to grow crystal grow. finally get 0.4 Grams. Whats Wrong? i think i must get 1.6+ Grams while correct step in my literation in bbgate

Other Question :
1. do I not need to dissolve theophylline with toluene, because it will remove ephedrine hcl?

2. Petroleum Ether best Celcius for good extraction from Ephedrine HCL tablet contains Ephedrine HCL & Theophylline.

a. Petroleum Ether 30-60° Celcius
b. 40-60° C
c. 80-100° C
d. 90-120°C

3. does petroleum ether dissolve theophylline too?
4. How Much NaOH add by water for 200 tablet contains 26g Theophyline & 2.5 g Ephedrine HCL
5. In fester video, He's use 96% Isopropyle Alcohol solvent while making NaOH Solution in ephedrine hcl srystal step. Whats the diffrent using water & Isopropyle alcohol ?

 

[robertlouis]

how to choose Hydrocloride Acid 35% while the information is:

1. HCl 0.05 Molarity 1000 ml
2. HCl 0.5 M 100 ml
3. HCl 0.1 M 100 ml
4. H C L Merck 100ml
5. HCl PA 10 ml

how to choose H2So4 35% (Sulfuric Acid) while the information is:
1. H2So4 AR
2. H2 So4 0.1 Molarity 100 ml

@G.Patton

 

[G.Patton]

1. add tablet powder to toluene solvent, stir 20min and evaporate.
2. add 2 gram NaOH solution to powder with 96% Isopropyle Alcohol Solvent to powder and evaporate.

robertlouisHello, @robertlouis . Where have you read about evaporation solvent after Ephedrine dissolving? Also, there is detached topic about extraction: https://bbgate.com/threads/ephedrine-extraction-from-pills-methods.2443/ Please read this carefully.

how to choose Hydrocloride Acid 35% while the information is:

1. HCl 0.05 Molarity 1000 ml
2. HCl 0.5 M 100 ml
3. HCl 0.1 M 100 ml
4. H C L Merck 100ml
5. HCl PA 10 ml

how to choose H2So4 35% (Sulfuric Acid) while the information is:
1. H2So4 AR
2. H2 So4 0.1 Molarity 100 ml

@G.Patton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molar_concentration Learn about it here
1M HCl solution has HCl 35.5% concentration
0.35 M H2SO4 is ~35% H2SO4 solution

 

[robertlouis]

Hello, @robertlouis . Where have you read about evaporation solvent after Ephedrine dissolving? Also, there is detached topic about extraction: https://bbgate.com/threads/ephedrine-extraction-from-pills-methods.2443/ Please read this carefully.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molar_concentration Learn about it here
1M HCl solution has HCl 35.5% concentration
0.35 M H2SO4 is ~35% H2SO4 solution

G.PattonThanks Patron, u very kind to me.

 

[nkd23]

Did anyone tried the alphastoff v4 tutorial? (Is in German)

The PSE extraction is very different too the methods here disgust

 

[m03]

anyone know vendors that stock pseudoephedrine / brand or websites that sell ephedrine containing pills?

 

[J-man]

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Extraction of pseudoephedrine from pharmaceutical (Sudafed) tablets.
Pseudoephedrine was extracted from Sudafed tablets using ethanol, ethanol/methanol (90:10% vol/vol) and methylated spirits. The solvents were chosen with reference to the relevant clandestine literature. For each extraction, one Sudafed tablet was crushed using a mortar and pestle and placed in a beaker. The iron oxide coating was removed by repetitive washing with acetone (10 mL in total) until all of the red colour had disappeared. The acetone was removed by filtration and the residue was allowed to dry. The extracting solvent (15 mL) was added to the beaker, which was then covered with aluminum foil and the sample shaken using mechanical agitation for 15 min. The sample was left to settle for one hour at room temperature, and then filtered using gravity filtration. The solvent was evaporated, and the resultant solid collected.
​

>>>>>>>>Other methods are here<<<<<<<<​

Iodine from iodine tinctures.
Iodine tincture (7 mL, 2.5%) and distilled water (7 mL) were combined together and mixed with swirling. Concentrated hydrochloric acid (1 mL) was added dropwise with swirling, followed by hydrogen peroxide (7 mL, 6 % 20 vols). The mixture was poured into a beaker containing distilled water (50 mL) and left to stand for 20 min. The mixture was subsequently filtered using gravity filtration to reveal the iodine crystals.

Extraction of red phosphorous from matchboxes.
Matchbook strikers were cut off from locally purchased KTWO safety matchboxes and soaked in acetone (10 mL). After 30 min, the red phosphorous was scrapped from the strikers, and the paper discarded. The extracted red phosphorous was washed with distilled water and left to dry to a constant weight. The dry red phosphorous was placed in a beaker, and sodium hydroxide solution (20% wt/vol, 20 mL) was added. This solution was placed on a low heat for 2 h. The final product was filtered, washed with distilled water and left to dry to a constant weight.

Synthesis of methylamphetamine using the Moscow and Hypophosphorous routes.
Six batches of methylamphetamine hydrochloride were prepared using each synthetic route for laboratory grade pseudoephedrine and pseudoephedrine extracted from Sudafed tablets as previously described. In the case of the extracted precursor samples, the essential chemicals (iodine and phosphorous), used in the synthesis, were also extracted from tinctures and matchboxes. Twenty-four batches of methylamphetamine hydrochloride were prepared using each route, providing 48 batches in total.​

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[1] Moscow route:
Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (2.0 g) was mixed in a round bottom flask (100 mL) together with red phosphorous (0.6 g), iodine (4.0 g) and distilled water (2 mL) and a condenser attached. The mixture was refluxed for 24 h and then allowed to cool. Once cool, the mixture was diluted with an equal volume of water and the red phosphorus filtered out. A few grams of sodium thiosulfate were placed into a beaker, and sodium hydroxide solution (25% wt/vol, 8 mL) added to basify the solution. This was then added to the filtered reaction mixture, and swirled to reveal methylamphetamine free base
As an oil, which floated to the top of the aqueous solution. Toluene (20 mL) was added to extract the methylamphetamine free base. The toluene extract was clear to pale yellow. Anhydrous hydrogen chloride gas was bubbled through to reveal a white precipitate, which was washed with toluene. The solid was dried under high vacuum.

[2] Hypophosphorous route:
Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (2.0 g) was placed into a round bottom flask (100 mL) and mixed with iodine (4.0 g) and hypophosphorous acid (3.6 mL) and a condenser attached. The mixture was refluxed for 8 h, then allowed to cool. Once cool, the mixture was diluted with an equal volume of water. A few grams of sodium thiosulfate were placed into a beaker, and 25 % sodium hydroxide solution (24 mL) was added to extract the methylamphetamine free base. Extraction and precipitation of the salt was as previously described.​

William DampierHello, just wondering how big could you scale these 2 methods up to? Thanks

 

[WalterWhiteSr]

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Extraction of pseudoephedrine from pharmaceutical (Sudafed) tablets.
Pseudoephedrine was extracted from Sudafed tablets using ethanol, ethanol/methanol (90:10% vol/vol) and methylated spirits. The solvents were chosen with reference to the relevant clandestine literature. For each extraction, one Sudafed tablet was crushed using a mortar and pestle and placed in a beaker. The iron oxide coating was removed by repetitive washing with acetone (10 mL in total) until all of the red colour had disappeared. The acetone was removed by filtration and the residue was allowed to dry. The extracting solvent (15 mL) was added to the beaker, which was then covered with aluminum foil and the sample shaken using mechanical agitation for 15 min. The sample was left to settle for one hour at room temperature, and then filtered using gravity filtration. The solvent was evaporated, and the resultant solid collected.
​

>>>>>>>>Other methods are here<<<<<<<<​

Iodine from iodine tinctures.
Iodine tincture (7 mL, 2.5%) and distilled water (7 mL) were combined together and mixed with swirling. Concentrated hydrochloric acid (1 mL) was added dropwise with swirling, followed by hydrogen peroxide (7 mL, 6 % 20 vols). The mixture was poured into a beaker containing distilled water (50 mL) and left to stand for 20 min. The mixture was subsequently filtered using gravity filtration to reveal the iodine crystals.

Extraction of red phosphorous from matchboxes.
Matchbook strikers were cut off from locally purchased KTWO safety matchboxes and soaked in acetone (10 mL). After 30 min, the red phosphorous was scrapped from the strikers, and the paper discarded. The extracted red phosphorous was washed with distilled water and left to dry to a constant weight. The dry red phosphorous was placed in a beaker, and sodium hydroxide solution (20% wt/vol, 20 mL) was added. This solution was placed on a low heat for 2 h. The final product was filtered, washed with distilled water and left to dry to a constant weight.

Synthesis of methylamphetamine using the Moscow and Hypophosphorous routes.
Six batches of methylamphetamine hydrochloride were prepared using each synthetic route for laboratory grade pseudoephedrine and pseudoephedrine extracted from Sudafed tablets as previously described. In the case of the extracted precursor samples, the essential chemicals (iodine and phosphorous), used in the synthesis, were also extracted from tinctures and matchboxes. Twenty-four batches of methylamphetamine hydrochloride were prepared using each route, providing 48 batches in total.​

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[1] Moscow route:
Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (2.0 g) was mixed in a round bottom flask (100 mL) together with red phosphorous (0.6 g), iodine (4.0 g) and distilled water (2 mL) and a condenser attached. The mixture was refluxed for 24 h and then allowed to cool. Once cool, the mixture was diluted with an equal volume of water and the red phosphorus filtered out. A few grams of sodium thiosulfate were placed into a beaker, and sodium hydroxide solution (25% wt/vol, 8 mL) added to basify the solution. This was then added to the filtered reaction mixture, and swirled to reveal methylamphetamine free base
As an oil, which floated to the top of the aqueous solution. Toluene (20 mL) was added to extract the methylamphetamine free base. The toluene extract was clear to pale yellow. Anhydrous hydrogen chloride gas was bubbled through to reveal a white precipitate, which was washed with toluene. The solid was dried under high vacuum.

[2] Hypophosphorous route:
Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (2.0 g) was placed into a round bottom flask (100 mL) and mixed with iodine (4.0 g) and hypophosphorous acid (3.6 mL) and a condenser attached. The mixture was refluxed for 8 h, then allowed to cool. Once cool, the mixture was diluted with an equal volume of water. A few grams of sodium thiosulfate were placed into a beaker, and 25 % sodium hydroxide solution (24 mL) was added to extract the methylamphetamine free base. Extraction and precipitation of the salt was as previously described.​

William DampierCan I also use BoxaGrippal, which are very popular in Austria. Ingredients below:

• 200 mg Ibuprofen
• 30 mg Pseudoephedrin hydrochlorid

 

[G.Patton]

Can I also use BoxaGrippal, which are very popular in Austria. Ingredients below:

• 200 mg Ibuprofen
• 30 mg Pseudoephedrin hydrochlorid

WalterWhiteSrYour question has already been discussed there https://bbgate.com/threads/ephedrine-extraction-from-pills-methods.2443/post-8578

 

[J-man]

Your question has already been discussed there https://bbgate.com/threads/ephedrine-extraction-from-pills-methods.2443/post-8578

G.PattonHey sorry to ask here but how big could you scale the moscow and/or Hypophosphorous routes up to?

 

[G.Patton]

Hey sorry to ask here but how big could you scale the moscow and/or Hypophosphorous routes up to?

J-man I think yes but not too much.

 

[J-man]

I think yes but not too much.

G.PattonAs in how much would you say? 1-5kg 5-10kg or 10-50kg final product batches etc?

 

[G.Patton]

As in how much would you say? 1-5kg 5-10kg or 10-50kg final product batches etc?

J-manThere is low yield and these ways don't gain commercially benefits. It is better to use p2p precursor in order to scale reaction up.

 

[J-man]

There is low yield and these ways don't gain commercially benefits. It is better to use p2p precursor in order to scale reaction up.

G.Pattonthanks

 

[Ra226]

Why is sodium thiosulfate added when processing the mixture? Is it okay to use sodium hydroxide directly? I don't quite understand what the role of sodium thiosulfate is.

 

[diogenes]

Why is sodium thiosulfate added when processing the mixture? Is it okay to use sodium hydroxide directly? I don't quite understand what the role of sodium thiosulfate is.

Ra226It`s to capture any remaining Iodine.

 

[Ra226]

The hypophosphorous acid method produces a lot of white powder in the condenser tube during reflux, and the condenser tube is completely blocked after about one hour. Is it normal?​

G.Patton​

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[Ra226]

The hypophosphorous acid method produces a lot of white powder in the condenser tube during reflux, and the condenser tube is completely blocked after about one hour. Is it normal?​

G.Patton​

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Ra226I guess there are two possibilities, one is that the white powder is desublimed phosphorous acid, and the other is that there is something wrong with ephedrine hydrochloride and it is a fake

 

[Lordoftheshard 2]

I guess there are two possibilities, one is that the white powder is desublimed phosphorous acid, and the other is that there is something wrong with ephedrine hydrochloride and it is a fake

Ra226I call his pseudo if fake