Methamphetamine from ephedrine tablets

[GhostBlack]

good afternoon everyone, I have 6kg of ephedrine, I have already started doing the tests through the hypophosphorous route, the acid that I have is at 80%, okay? or at what concentration should it be?
After doing the whole process, at the end the oil was separated from the aqueous part, the yellow methamphetamine oil and a brown-colored layer was also formed, I separated with toluene and the brown color disappeared, I decanted and then I started the crystallization with HCL in gas, I lowered it to a ph of 5 and nothing happened, I kept lowering the ph until it reached zero and a very dense layer was formed at the bottom, I placed it on a rotaevaporator for an hour to remove it the toluene and after removing the ball from the rotaevaporator it became like a slush, I waited for it to dry for 24 hours and it was still wet, I don't know what I was wrong but I could not crystallize the goal, it would be of great help if you could explain to me where was I wrong, thank you very much

 

[Lordoftheshard 2]

good afternoon everyone, I have 6kg of ephedrine, I have already started doing the tests through the hypophosphorous route, the acid that I have is at 80%, okay? or at what concentration should it be?
After doing the whole process, at the end the oil was separated from the aqueous part, the yellow methamphetamine oil and a brown-colored layer was also formed, I separated with toluene and the brown color disappeared, I decanted and then I started the crystallization with HCL in gas, I lowered it to a ph of 5 and nothing happened, I kept lowering the ph until it reached zero and a very dense layer was formed at the bottom, I placed it on a rotaevaporator for an hour to remove it the toluene and after removing the ball from the rotaevaporator it became like a slush, I waited for it to dry for 24 hours and it was still wet, I don't know what I was wrong but I could not crystallize the goal, it would be of great help if you could explain to me where was I wrong, thank you very much

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GhostBlackAll you had to do was separate the fb oil from the caustic water in. A sep funnel wash the fb oil with equal amount of dh20 discard the dh20 then add equal amount of anhydrous acetone tritate with hcl acid til pH was 5.8 add 1ml of dh20 to every gram of meth hcl then evap before you get a skim on top t put it in a dark cupboard and let nature do its thing no need to gas and make things difficult

 

[Lordoftheshard 2]

good afternoon everyone, I have 6kg of ephedrine, I have already started doing the tests through the hypophosphorous route, the acid that I have is at 80%, okay? or at what concentration should it be?
After doing the whole process, at the end the oil was separated from the aqueous part, the yellow methamphetamine oil and a brown-colored layer was also formed, I separated with toluene and the brown color disappeared, I decanted and then I started the crystallization with HCL in gas, I lowered it to a ph of 5 and nothing happened, I kept lowering the ph until it reached zero and a very dense layer was formed at the bottom, I placed it on a rotaevaporator for an hour to remove it the toluene and after removing the ball from the rotaevaporator it became like a slush, I waited for it to dry for 24 hours and it was still wet, I don't know what I was wrong but I could not crystallize the goal, it would be of great help if you could explain to me where was I wrong, thank you very much

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GhostBlackI just read this properly pH 0 big no no you have to freebase it again and your going to loose product also from looking at your beaker you have belted it when doing distillation and brought caustic over with your oil when doing Distillation wether simple or steam no further than a quarter of the way down the condenser you vapor pressure ok slow and steady wins the race here patients
Also your not going to make ice buy gassing the product you will make white powder which has to be filterd washed with anhydrous acetone then recrystallized with dh20 or solvent

 

[B.d.p.n.e]

good afternoon everyone, I have 6kg of ephedrine, I have already started doing the tests through the hypophosphorous route, the acid that I have is at 80%, okay? or at what concentration should it be?
After doing the whole process, at the end the oil was separated from the aqueous part, the yellow methamphetamine oil and a brown-colored layer was also formed, I separated with toluene and the brown color disappeared, I decanted and then I started the crystallization with HCL in gas, I lowered it to a ph of 5 and nothing happened, I kept lowering the ph until it reached zero and a very dense layer was formed at the bottom, I placed it on a rotaevaporator for an hour to remove it the toluene and after removing the ball from the rotaevaporator it became like a slush, I waited for it to dry for 24 hours and it was still wet, I don't know what I was wrong but I could not crystallize the goal, it would be of great help if you could explain to me where was I wrong, thank you very much

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GhostBlackThe ph level should not fall below 5.8, re-extract the pH with sodium hydroxide to 13 again And carefully crystallize

If hcl gas doesn't work, try this:

Put the toluene layer in a beaker and add an equal amount of pure water, carefully add dropwise hcl to pH 5.8 (when measuring pH, measure the water layer, not the toluene layer)


Shake vigorously for a long time and separate the layer of water, evaporating the water



Sorry for bad eng

 

[B.d.p.n.e]

ok, I understand you, the most curious thing is that I crystallized very ugly, so I do a recrystallization?
Another little thing, when I began to place HCl in gas, I could see very little white precipitate when reaching ph 6.0. The formation of crystals occurs by putting the solution in the freezer or how?
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GhostBlackTry cleaning the crystals:

Place the filter paper in a glass funnel and spread all the crystals in a thin layer of powder on the filter paper, Then wash your crystals with anhydrous acetone and then dry them

If there are still impurities, the reaction during the construction is infected with too many impurities, try the Moscow route

 

[B.d.p.n.e]

ok, I understand you, the most curious thing is that I crystallized very ugly, so I do a recrystallization?
Another little thing, when I began to place HCl in gas, I could see very little white precipitate when reaching ph 6.0. The formation of crystals occurs by putting the solution in the freezer or how?
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GhostBlackFor crystals in the form of glass:

After the cleaning phase is over, dissolve the methamphetamine powder in as little alcohol as possible and then wait for the alcohol to evaporate.

 

[G.Patton]

ok, I understand you, the most curious thing is that I crystallized very ugly, so I do a recrystallization?
Another little thing, when I began to place HCl in gas, I could see very little white precipitate when reaching ph 6.0. The formation of crystals occurs by putting the solution in the freezer or how?
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GhostBlack

The formation of crystals occurs by putting the solution in the freezer or how?

Hi, sorry for a long reply. Do you mean big crystals? You need separate d-Meth and then crystallize it.

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[Urky]

Is it bad if i used ethanol for PSE extraction ?

 

[B.d.p.n.e]

Is it bad if i used ethanol for PSE extraction ?

UrkyI've never seen anyone do this with ethanol, and I'd like to remind you that ethanol is more expensive than toluene, and ethanol has less solvent than toluene

 

[Urky]

I've never seen anyone do this with ethanol, and I'd like to remind you that ethanol is more expensive than toluene, and ethanol has less solvent than toluene

B.d.p.n.eI dissolved PSE in ethanol, solution was cloudy, i heated the solution for a little bit and the solution cleared out.
I then spread it on large mirror for better evaporation and it formed crystals looking little bit like white mold. Im not sure if they contain PSE.

 

[B.d.p.n.e]

I dissolved PSE in ethanol, solution was cloudy, i heated the solution for a little bit and the solution cleared out.
I then spread it on large mirror for better evaporation and it formed crystals looking little bit like white mold. Im not sure if they contain PSE.

UrkyYou can tell it by the taste...

I know it's disgusting and unhealthy, but pse is not a drug in the procedure, so you can taste it with peace of mind.

The taste of pse is extremely bitter, while the taste of methamphetamine is sour

If you are sure you have pse, follow the removal procedure I mentioned above

 

[Lordoftheshard 2]

You can tell it by the taste...

I know it's disgusting and unhealthy, but pse is not a drug in the procedure, so you can taste it with peace of mind.

The taste of pse is extremely bitter, while the taste of methamphetamine is sour

If you are sure you have pse, follow the removal procedure I mentioned above

B.d.p.n.eFilter your ethanol with pse in it then get an electric wok with a fan blowing over the top of it and evap the ethanol off your left with pse

 

[mr hallo]

Can we use liquid ephedrine for this?

 

[G.Patton]

Can we use liquid ephedrine for this?

mr halloHello, what do you name "liquid ephedrine"? Ephedrine and ephedrine hydrochloride are solid substances.

P.S. Do not spam by the same question in different topics.

 

[mr hallo]

Hello, what do you name "liquid ephedrine"? Ephedrine and ephedrine hydrochloride are solid substances.

P.S. Do not spam by the same question in different topics.

G.PattonBut the extract of the ephedra plant, which is called ephedrine extract, is in liquid form. Can we separate ephedrine liquid by evaporating it?

 

[G.Patton]

But the extract of the ephedra plant, which is called ephedrine extract, is in liquid form. Can we separate ephedrine liquid by evaporating it?

mr halloYou extract molecules of ephedrine by a solvent. The solvent is evaporated and you get pure ephedrine. Ephedrine + solvent is not a "liquid ephedrine", it is a mixture. Yes, you can.

 

[mr hallo]

You extract molecules of ephedrine by a solvent. The solvent is evaporated and you get pure ephedrine. Ephedrine + solvent is not a "liquid ephedrine", it is a mixture. Yes, you can.

G.PattonPlease mention the name of the chemical solvent

 

[G.Patton]

Please mention the name of the chemical solvent

mr halloAre you kidding me?

 

[evangelium]

hello i wanna try the moscow way but im bit confused. i wanna go step by step of the video but the video is different from the desription can somebody please help me understood it ? in the desription is mentioned that the refluxion is needed for 24h but in video is not showed anywere. did they skip it or theyre using different way ? and also what is sodium thiosulfate used for and when ? they didnt have it in the video. about phosfane gas, could i use exhoust vent made for growing weed ? its pretty strong and it have carbon filter would it work for the smell of the fumes ? last question is about ice manufacturing. I red G. Patton post about ice manufaturing and i would love to try it out but im not sure if it would work with the pseudoefedrine meth base same as with P2P way. if so from with step should i start with the pseudo meth base ? Some guys said that his post is fake is it true ? or the guys just didnt knew shit ? thanks for all replice it would help me a lot and sorry for my english

 

[Lordoftheshard 2]

hello i wanna try the moscow way but im bit confused. i wanna go step by step of the video but the video is different from the desription can somebody please help me understood it ? in the desription is mentioned that the refluxion is needed for 24h but in video is not showed anywere. did they skip it or theyre using different way ? and also what is sodium thiosulfate used for and when ? they didnt have it in the video. about phosfane gas, could i use exhoust vent made for growing weed ? its pretty strong and it have carbon filter would it work for the smell of the fumes ? last question is about ice manufacturing. I red G. Patton post about ice manufaturing and i would love to try it out but im not sure if it would work with the pseudoefedrine meth base same as with P2P way. if so from with step should i start with the pseudo meth base ? Some guys said that his post is fake is it true ? or the guys just didnt knew shit ? thanks for all replice it would help me a lot and sorry for my english

evangeliumDon't listen to those fuckheads sayi
3ng this post isn't true
1 sodium thiosulfate is used to kill any iodine and color when doing rp/hi route that's why I tell people to use hypophosphorous acid as you don't have to filter the red phosphorus out and use sodium thiosulfate and you don't have to reflux for 24 hours using this method 4 to 8 hours is enough
2 you can the exhaust vent that attac to the carbon filter with the duct placed 2 feet above the condenser if you have a speed control on the fan don't have it switched up flat stick were not growing dope here we just want to move the poison gas out of the area you are cooking in have a duct that at the front of fan and then another duct at the back of the fan going to the carbon filter have the carbon filter outside the area you are cooking in place the duct at the front of the fan 2 feet above the condenser
3 Using meth fb made from pseudo will work better using the method G Patton posted to make ice than p2p all the proper ice was made from pseudo and eph which produces DMeth before the clamp got put on the pseudo and eph

 

[Lordoftheshard 2]

Before they fucked the Sudafed pills with gaks etc a 1000 boxes of Sudafed in a 25 litre plastic white food grade bucket first wash 12 l of methylated spirits hot in the the bucket paint stirrer on a cordless drill stir untill all is disolvedl place the bucket on a bench with the lid on it leave it until the metho was clear then place another bucket on the ground and syphon the the metho from the bucket on the bench in to the one on the ground and make sure you don't suck any of the shit settled on the bottom of the bucket
Now repeat the process twice but this time only use 8l of metho each time now with your 3 washes pooled in the bottom bucket pour this into a electric wok with a fan blowing over the top do this outside as the concentration of liquid goes down keep filling the wok until all the metho has evaporated away get a bamboo spoon but the flat ones and work the pseudo till it dries to powder then wash the pseudo with anhydrous acetone and your done

 

[evangelium]

how much sodium thiosulfate should i use in description ratio ?

 

[B.d.p.n.e]

how much sodium thiosulfate should i use in description ratio ?

evangeliumIt's hard to give a keaine amount about it, but you need to use around 4/1 of the iodine used

 

[evangelium]

It's hard to give a keaine amount about it, but you need to use around 4/1 of the iodine used

B.d.p.n.eSo 4 thiosulfate /1 iodine ?

 

[B.d.p.n.e]

So 4 thiosulfate /1 iodine ?

evangelium4 iode / 1 thiosulfate