Methamphetamine from ephedrine tablets

[G.Patton]

Hi

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Or shall I order these, if they will be easier to work with ?

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Ingredients below.

Ephedrine 30mg
Caffeine 200mg
Aspirin 30mg

1. How can I remove Aspirin out of this using the most simplest of the methods ?
(Aspirin is not water soluble but ephedrine is soluble ? Can I take that route ? Grind pills add to water then gravity filter (Aspirin remains on the filter) I get the Epherdrine + Caffeine + Water)
Hmm how do I remove the solubles (Ephedrine + Caffeine) from the water ?

2. How can I extract only ephedrine out of the tablets using the most simplest of the methods, if any ?

Thanks in Advance

ifreezeuAspirin 10 g/100 ml ethyl ether
Caffeine 0.2 g/100 ml ethyl ether
Ephedrine insoluble in ether
Use anhydrous ether!

 

[kharpa177]

Aspirin 10 g/100 ml ethyl ether
Caffeine 0.2 g/100 ml ethyl ether
Ephedrine insoluble in ether
Use anhydrous ether!

G.PattonI have pills that contain 1g of paracetamol and 60mg of pseudoephedrine how do I extract pseudoephedrine?

 

[mithyl2]

can you use xylene in place of toluene?

 

[Jordan Belfort]

can you use xylene in place of toluene?

mithyl2Yes, but you cannot bubble HCL gas through it. It will reduce the xylene to a different compound (found out the expensive way earlier)

 

[G.Patton]

Hi Expert i wanna ask in 1 & 2 route temperature refluxe.
1. how much the temperature range can i stand in 24h reflux n 8h?
2. how much temperature range u mean in low heat ?

robertlouisThe lowest temperature, which is needed to boil the reaction mixture.

 

[Jordan Belfort]

The lowest temperature, which is needed to boil the reaction mixture.

G.PattonCan I do the moscow route also with ultra-sound bath without causing a explosion (to increase reaction rate and stirring) ?

 

[G.Patton]

Can I do the moscow route also with ultra-sound bath without causing a explosion (to increase reaction rate and stirring) ?

Jordan BelfortYes, why not? There are no potentially explosive substances.

 

[Jordan Belfort]

Yes, why not? There are no potentially explosive substances.

G.PattonHydrogen is being generated, but I am not afraid of hydrogen itself I use ultrasound with a grignard and nitromethane/methanol aezotrope (image if it catches then fire).

But it am afraid if the red phosphorus itself.

 

[G.Patton]

Hydrogen is being generated, but I am not afraid of hydrogen itself I use ultrasound with a grignard and nitromethane/methanol aezotrope (image if it catches then fire).

But it am afraid if the red phosphorus itself.

Jordan BelfortHow ultrasound can cause an ignition?

 

[Jordan Belfort]

How ultrasound can cause an ignition?

G.PattonCreates local hotspots, thats how it's red phosphorus but I will try small

 

[Ra226]

The hypophosphorous acid method produces a lot of white powder in the condenser tube during reflux, and the condenser tube is completely blocked after about one hour. Is it normal?​

G.Patton​

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[Ra226]

The hypophosphorous acid method produces a lot of white powder in the condenser tube during reflux, and the condenser tube is completely blocked after about one hour. Is it normal?​

G.Patton​

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Ra226I guess there are two possibilities, one is that the white powder is desublimed phosphorous acid, and the other is that there is something wrong with ephedrine hydrochloride and it is a fake

 

[Lordoftheshard 2]

I guess there are two possibilities, one is that the white powder is desublimed phosphorous acid, and the other is that there is something wrong with ephedrine hydrochloride and it is a fake

Ra226I call his pseudo if fake

 

[Tincan88]

So is the meth that is made with pseudo as god as shit made with ephedrine ?

 

[diogenes]

So is the meth that is made with pseudo as god as shit made with ephedrine ?

Tincan88Both ephedrine and pseudoephedrine gives D-meth as a product, there is no difference, they are equally good.

 

[Urky]

Both ephedrine and pseudoephedrine gives D-meth as a product, there is no difference, they are equally good.

diogenesboth are giving d meth but pseudomet,h gives big strong rush and high last like for 12 hours, ephemeth gives smaller but more longer more comfortable rush and can last for 2-3 days.

 

[Johnnyblaze1]

Hello to the William Dampier
First of all, thank you for your sharing. Secondly, I have several questions to ask you,
1. In the video, how much is the temperature of mixing red phosphorus, iodine and ephedrine for an hour and a half?
2. Sodium thiosulfate is not used in the video. Red Devil Lye What is this? Are they a substitute? If not, what about using sodium thiosulfate?
3. Sulphuric acid cannot be bought in my country. Can HCL gas be replaced by HCL solid?

 

[Urky]

Hello to the William Dampier
First of all, thank you for your sharing. Secondly, I have several questions to ask you,
1. In the video, how much is the temperature of mixing red phosphorus, iodine and ephedrine for an hour and a half?
2. Sodium thiosulfate is not used in the video. Red Devil Lye What is this? Are they a substitute? If not, what about using sodium thiosulfate?
3. Sulphuric acid cannot be bought in my country. Can HCL gas be replaced by HCL solid?

allenjayRed devil lye is just a brand name for normal NaOH.

 

[Johnnyblaze1]

Red devil lye is just a brand name for normal NaOH.

UrkyOk, thank you, I don't know much about that. And why sodium thiosulfate was not used to remove iodine, which makes me wonder

 

[Zippy53]

Red devil lye is just a brand name for normal NaOH.

UrkySodium thiosulfate is not used in the video because they dont give a shit about removing excess iodine from the final product..They arent concerned about safety, toxic fumes or the purity of the final product..I would say that we should take the video as a basic, sloppy yet informative outline of how the synthesis works..
And you dont need sulfuric acid...You can also use muriatic acid/hydrochloric acid to produce your gas. This is what I use...It is not volatile nor does it produce any pressure to be concerned about..Damp rid is calcium chloride which reacts with the muriatic acid to produce hcl gas..Amounts are not critical..Just about 1/8th of a cup of Damp Rid and just enough muriatic to barely cover the Damp Rid and, put the cap with hose back on squeezy bottle..Swirl it around a bit and let it sit for like 10 min...Then insert tube into whatever you are gassing and squeeze...Dont forget to remove hose after you squeeze because you dont want to suck up your liquid that you are gassing..
Hope this helps!

 

[Urky]

Sodium thiosulfate is not used in the video because they dont give a shit about removing excess iodine from the final product..They arent concerned about safety, toxic fumes or the purity of the final product..I would say that we should take the video as a basic, sloppy yet informative outline of how the synthesis works..
And you dont need sulfuric acid...You can also use muriatic acid/hydrochloric acid to produce your gas. This is what I use...It is not volatile nor does it produce any pressure to be concerned about..Damp rid is calcium chloride which reacts with the muriatic acid to produce hcl gas..Amounts are not critical..Just about 1/8th of a cup of Damp Rid and just enough muriatic to barely cover the Damp Rid and, put the cap with hose back on squeezy bottle..Swirl it around a bit and let it sit for like 10 min...Then insert tube into whatever you are gassing and squeeze...Dont forget to remove hose after you squeeze because you dont want to suck up your liquid that you are gassing..
Hope this helps!
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Zippy53Does it need to be concentrated muriatic or 31 percent is ok ?

 

[Johnnyblaze1]

Sodium thiosulfate is not used in the video because they dont give a shit about removing excess iodine from the final product..They arent concerned about safety, toxic fumes or the purity of the final product..I would say that we should take the video as a basic, sloppy yet informative outline of how the synthesis works..
And you dont need sulfuric acid...You can also use muriatic acid/hydrochloric acid to produce your gas. This is what I use...It is not volatile nor does it produce any pressure to be concerned about..Damp rid is calcium chloride which reacts with the muriatic acid to produce hcl gas..Amounts are not critical..Just about 1/8th of a cup of Damp Rid and just enough muriatic to barely cover the Damp Rid and, put the cap with hose back on squeezy bottle..Swirl it around a bit and let it sit for like 10 min...Then insert tube into whatever you are gassing and squeeze...Dont forget to remove hose after you squeeze because you dont want to suck up your liquid that you are gassing..
Hope this helps!
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Zippy53Okay, thanks brother. I've also tried to find a lot of ways to make it, and you can really suck back the liquid in your cup, and you can put a small inverted funnel or suction at the end. I have found a way to make the hydrogen chloride gas. It's easy to buy chemical sodium chloride and oxalic acid, add the right amount of water and heat it to generate hcl gas, possibly carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide, and the toxic exhaust is treated with sodium hydroxide solution and burning alcohol lamps.

 

[G.Patton]

Hello to the William Dampier
First of all, thank you for your sharing. Secondly, I have several questions to ask you,
1. In the video, how much is the temperature of mixing red phosphorus, iodine and ephedrine for an hour and a half?
2. Sodium thiosulfate is not used in the video. Red Devil Lye What is this? Are they a substitute? If not, what about using sodium thiosulfate?
3. Sulphuric acid cannot be bought in my country. Can HCL gas be replaced by HCL solid?

allenjayHello, please, read the topic carefully.
>1. In the video, how much is the temperature of mixing red phosphorus, iodine and ephedrine for an hour and a half?

The mixture was refluxed for 24 h and then allowed to cool.

HCl cannot be solid.
>Can HCL gas be replaced by HCL solid?

 

[Cheerbushe]

Can the used toluene solution be used for the second time?

 

[GhostBlack]

good afternoon everyone, I have 6kg of ephedrine, I have already started doing the tests through the hypophosphorous route, the acid that I have is at 80%, okay? or at what concentration should it be?
After doing the whole process, at the end the oil was separated from the aqueous part, the yellow methamphetamine oil and a brown-colored layer was also formed, I separated with toluene and the brown color disappeared, I decanted and then I started the crystallization with HCL in gas, I lowered it to a ph of 5 and nothing happened, I kept lowering the ph until it reached zero and a very dense layer was formed at the bottom, I placed it on a rotaevaporator for an hour to remove it the toluene and after removing the ball from the rotaevaporator it became like a slush, I waited for it to dry for 24 hours and it was still wet, I don't know what I was wrong but I could not crystallize the goal, it would be of great help if you could explain to me where was I wrong, thank you very much

 

[B.d.p.n.e]

good afternoon everyone, I have 6kg of ephedrine, I have already started doing the tests through the hypophosphorous route, the acid that I have is at 80%, okay? or at what concentration should it be?
After doing the whole process, at the end the oil was separated from the aqueous part, the yellow methamphetamine oil and a brown-colored layer was also formed, I separated with toluene and the brown color disappeared, I decanted and then I started the crystallization with HCL in gas, I lowered it to a ph of 5 and nothing happened, I kept lowering the ph until it reached zero and a very dense layer was formed at the bottom, I placed it on a rotaevaporator for an hour to remove it the toluene and after removing the ball from the rotaevaporator it became like a slush, I waited for it to dry for 24 hours and it was still wet, I don't know what I was wrong but I could not crystallize the goal, it would be of great help if you could explain to me where was I wrong, thank you very much

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GhostBlackThe ph level should not fall below 5.8, re-extract the pH with sodium hydroxide to 13 again And carefully crystallize

If hcl gas doesn't work, try this:

Put the toluene layer in a beaker and add an equal amount of pure water, carefully add dropwise hcl to pH 5.8 (when measuring pH, measure the water layer, not the toluene layer)


Shake vigorously for a long time and separate the layer of water, evaporating the water



Sorry for bad eng

 

[GhostBlack]

The ph level should not fall below 5.8, re-extract the pH with sodium hydroxide to 13 again And carefully crystallize

If hcl gas doesn't work, try this:

Put the toluene layer in a beaker and add an equal amount of pure water, carefully add dropwise hcl to pH 5.8 (when measuring pH, measure the water layer, not the toluene layer)


Shake vigorously for a long time and separate the layer of water, evaporating the water



Sorry for bad eng

B.d.p.n.eok, I understand you, the most curious thing is that I crystallized very ugly, so I do a recrystallization?
Another little thing, when I began to place HCl in gas, I could see very little white precipitate when reaching ph 6.0. The formation of crystals occurs by putting the solution in the freezer or how?

 

[B.d.p.n.e]

ok, I understand you, the most curious thing is that I crystallized very ugly, so I do a recrystallization?
Another little thing, when I began to place HCl in gas, I could see very little white precipitate when reaching ph 6.0. The formation of crystals occurs by putting the solution in the freezer or how?
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GhostBlackFor crystals in the form of glass:

After the cleaning phase is over, dissolve the methamphetamine powder in as little alcohol as possible and then wait for the alcohol to evaporate.

 

[G.Patton]

ok, I understand you, the most curious thing is that I crystallized very ugly, so I do a recrystallization?
Another little thing, when I began to place HCl in gas, I could see very little white precipitate when reaching ph 6.0. The formation of crystals occurs by putting the solution in the freezer or how?
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GhostBlack

The formation of crystals occurs by putting the solution in the freezer or how?

Hi, sorry for a long reply. Do you mean big crystals? You need separate d-Meth and then crystallize it.

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[Lordoftheshard 2]

good afternoon everyone, I have 6kg of ephedrine, I have already started doing the tests through the hypophosphorous route, the acid that I have is at 80%, okay? or at what concentration should it be?
After doing the whole process, at the end the oil was separated from the aqueous part, the yellow methamphetamine oil and a brown-colored layer was also formed, I separated with toluene and the brown color disappeared, I decanted and then I started the crystallization with HCL in gas, I lowered it to a ph of 5 and nothing happened, I kept lowering the ph until it reached zero and a very dense layer was formed at the bottom, I placed it on a rotaevaporator for an hour to remove it the toluene and after removing the ball from the rotaevaporator it became like a slush, I waited for it to dry for 24 hours and it was still wet, I don't know what I was wrong but I could not crystallize the goal, it would be of great help if you could explain to me where was I wrong, thank you very much

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GhostBlackAll you had to do was separate the fb oil from the caustic water in. A sep funnel wash the fb oil with equal amount of dh20 discard the dh20 then add equal amount of anhydrous acetone tritate with hcl acid til pH was 5.8 add 1ml of dh20 to every gram of meth hcl then evap before you get a skim on top t put it in a dark cupboard and let nature do its thing no need to gas and make things difficult

 

[Lordoftheshard 2]

good afternoon everyone, I have 6kg of ephedrine, I have already started doing the tests through the hypophosphorous route, the acid that I have is at 80%, okay? or at what concentration should it be?
After doing the whole process, at the end the oil was separated from the aqueous part, the yellow methamphetamine oil and a brown-colored layer was also formed, I separated with toluene and the brown color disappeared, I decanted and then I started the crystallization with HCL in gas, I lowered it to a ph of 5 and nothing happened, I kept lowering the ph until it reached zero and a very dense layer was formed at the bottom, I placed it on a rotaevaporator for an hour to remove it the toluene and after removing the ball from the rotaevaporator it became like a slush, I waited for it to dry for 24 hours and it was still wet, I don't know what I was wrong but I could not crystallize the goal, it would be of great help if you could explain to me where was I wrong, thank you very much

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GhostBlackI just read this properly pH 0 big no no you have to freebase it again and your going to loose product also from looking at your beaker you have belted it when doing distillation and brought caustic over with your oil when doing Distillation wether simple or steam no further than a quarter of the way down the condenser you vapor pressure ok slow and steady wins the race here patients
Also your not going to make ice buy gassing the product you will make white powder which has to be filterd washed with anhydrous acetone then recrystallized with dh20 or solvent